{"id":184041,"date":"2023-09-01T14:42:34","date_gmt":"2023-09-01T18:42:34","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/stateofthenation.co\/?p=184041"},"modified":"2023-09-01T14:48:09","modified_gmt":"2023-09-01T18:48:09","slug":"more-superstorm-idalia-mysterious-mischief","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/stateofthenation.co\/?p=184041","title":{"rendered":"<h2><b>MORE SUPERSTORM IDALIA MYSTERIOUS MISCHIEF<\/b><\/h2>"},"content":{"rendered":"<h1 data-t=\"{&quot;n&quot;:&quot;blueLinks&quot;}\">As Idalia hit Florida, all of NOAA\u2019s hurricane-hunting planes were grounded<\/h1>\n<p data-t=\"{&quot;n&quot;:&quot;blueLinks&quot;}\"><!--more-->Story by Allyson Chiu, Dino Grandoni, Jason Samenow<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_184045\" style=\"width: 650px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-184045\" class=\"size-large wp-image-184045\" src=\"http:\/\/stateofthenation.co\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/AA1g0wzv-1024x682.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"426\" srcset=\"http:\/\/stateofthenation.co\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/AA1g0wzv-1024x682.jpg 1024w, http:\/\/stateofthenation.co\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/AA1g0wzv-300x200.jpg 300w, http:\/\/stateofthenation.co\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/AA1g0wzv-768x512.jpg 768w, http:\/\/stateofthenation.co\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/AA1g0wzv-1536x1023.jpg 1536w, http:\/\/stateofthenation.co\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/AA1g0wzv.jpg 1621w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-184045\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">As Idalia hit Florida, all of NOAA\u2019s hurricane-hunting planes were grounded<br \/>\u00a9 Jahi Chikwendiu\/The Washington Post<\/p><\/div>\n<p data-t=\"{&quot;n&quot;:&quot;blueLinks&quot;}\">As Hurricane Idalia<a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/weather\/2023\/08\/30\/hurricane-idalia-landfall-florida-live-updates\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-t=\"{&quot;n&quot;:&quot;destination&quot;,&quot;t&quot;:13,&quot;b&quot;:1,&quot;c.t&quot;:7}\">\u00a0rapidly approached Florida\u2019s Big Bend region<\/a>\u00a0early Wednesday morning, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration had to ground its last remaining \u201churricane hunter\u201d plane due to a generator failure.<\/p>\n<p data-t=\"{&quot;n&quot;:&quot;blueLinks&quot;}\">Dubbed Miss Piggy, the plane is one of three aircraft operated by NOAA that can collect storm data essential to forecasters. In the 24 hours before Idalia slammed into Florida, it was the only NOAA-operated aircraft available to provide the federal agency\u2019s National Hurricane Center with data on the storm, according to one former senior NOAA official and one current employee, who spoke on the condition of anonymity due to the issue\u2019s sensitivity.<\/p>\n<p data-t=\"{&quot;n&quot;:&quot;blueLinks&quot;}\">Asked about the matter Wednesday, NOAA confirmed the plane\u2019s technical problems.<\/p>\n<p data-t=\"{&quot;n&quot;:&quot;blueLinks&quot;}\">The two other planes were undergoing repairs. After days of flying into Idalia, Miss Piggy, too, was sidelined \u2014 unable to carry out the early-morning flight requested by the Hurricane Center as the storm was set to make landfall. Instead, an Air Force plane that had also been asked to fly provided data on the storm, two current employees said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"continue-read-break\" data-t=\"{&quot;n&quot;:&quot;blueLinks&quot;}\">The planes\u2019 troubles have raised concerns about the availability of one key forecasting tool ahead of what\u2019s\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/weather\/2023\/07\/06\/revised-hurricane-season-forecast-atlantic-csu\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-t=\"{&quot;n&quot;:&quot;destination&quot;,&quot;t&quot;:13,&quot;b&quot;:1,&quot;c.t&quot;:7}\">shaping up to be an active hurricane season<\/a>. While the Hurricane Center has other ways of gathering information, experts say forecasters rely heavily on these planes for data that helps inform watches, warnings and evacuation decisions.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" tabindex=\"-1\" data-t=\"{&quot;n&quot;:&quot;blueLinks&quot;}\" aria-expanded=\"true\">In addition to the flights, NOAA said it used a variety of tools to track Idalia\u2019s path toward Florida, including satellites and the National Weather Service\u2019s network of radars. \u201cNOAA has numerous observing platforms on and in the ocean this season,\u201d said Scott Smullen, an agency spokesman.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" tabindex=\"-1\" data-t=\"{&quot;n&quot;:&quot;blueLinks&quot;}\" aria-expanded=\"true\">It\u2019s still unclear whether the Hurricane Center\u2019s forecast suffered for having only one NOAA plane flying into Idalia as it advanced toward shore. Some experts noted that predictions about the system\u2019s path have been accurate, and flying planes is less important as storms near shore, where they can be tracked by ground-based radars. But had the planes been unavailable earlier, it could have hurt the accuracy of forecasts, they said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" tabindex=\"-1\" data-t=\"{&quot;n&quot;:&quot;blueLinks&quot;}\" aria-expanded=\"true\">\u201cIt\u2019s like a World Cup soccer game, and you have one goalie, and you play him every moment of every game,\u201d one of the current NOAA officials said. \u201cIt\u2019s a very high risk that he gets hurt, and the impact when he does that \u2014 you lose the World Cup.\u201d<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_184044\" style=\"width: 778px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-184044\" class=\"size-full wp-image-184044\" src=\"http:\/\/stateofthenation.co\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/AA1g0rqC.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"768\" height=\"512\" srcset=\"http:\/\/stateofthenation.co\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/AA1g0rqC.jpg 768w, http:\/\/stateofthenation.co\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/AA1g0rqC-300x200.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 768px) 100vw, 768px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-184044\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">One of NOAA&#8217;s hurricane-monitoring aircraft, seen in Arlington, Va., in 2017.\u00a9\u00a0Jahi Chikwendiu\/The Washington Post<\/p><\/div>\n<h3 class=\"article-sub-heading\" tabindex=\"-1\" aria-expanded=\"true\"><b>\u2018Hurricane hunters\u2019<\/b><\/h3>\n<p class=\"\" tabindex=\"-1\" data-t=\"{&quot;n&quot;:&quot;blueLinks&quot;}\" aria-expanded=\"true\">Aside from Miss Piggy, NOAA operates another Lockheed WP-3D Orion called Kermit and a Gulfstream IV-SP named Gonzo.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" tabindex=\"-1\" data-t=\"{&quot;n&quot;:&quot;blueLinks&quot;}\" aria-expanded=\"true\">The Lockheed planes, known as P-3s, punch through the eyewalls of hurricanes to gather the data forecasters need to make accurate predictions about the intensity and trajectory of hurricanes.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" tabindex=\"-1\" data-t=\"{&quot;n&quot;:&quot;blueLinks&quot;}\" aria-expanded=\"true\">\u201cThey\u2019re made to fly through nasty weather, and fly really low and be very rugged,\u201d said Mark Luther, an oceanographer at the University of South Florida. \u201cThey\u2019re very sturdy aircraft.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" tabindex=\"-1\" data-t=\"{&quot;n&quot;:&quot;blueLinks&quot;}\" aria-expanded=\"true\">To paint a picture of a storm, scientists aboard the planes drop probes to measure wind direction and speed, pressure, humidity and temperature as they descend to the sea, transmitting that information back to the aircraft. The planes also have a tail Doppler radar system, or TDR, located near the back that measures precipitation and winds, creating a three-dimensional \u201cCAT scan\u201d that can show forecasters where the strongest winds are, how far they extend out from the storm center and where the most intense rainfall occurs,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.aoml.noaa.gov\/real-time-doppler-radar\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-t=\"{&quot;n&quot;:&quot;destination&quot;,&quot;t&quot;:13,&quot;b&quot;:1,&quot;c.t&quot;:7}\">according to NOAA<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" tabindex=\"-1\" data-t=\"{&quot;n&quot;:&quot;blueLinks&quot;}\" aria-expanded=\"true\">Gonzo, the Gulfstream jet, flies higher than the P-3s and gathers data on storms from the upper atmosphere.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" tabindex=\"-1\" data-t=\"{&quot;n&quot;:&quot;blueLinks&quot;}\" aria-expanded=\"true\">The three planes are approaching the end of their life spans. The P-3s, for instance, have been in service since the 1970s, while the Gulfstream jet has been operating since the mid-1990s<i>.<\/i>\u00a0While they have been retrofitted and repaired, flying through a hurricane can be grueling \u2014 for both the crews and the planes.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" tabindex=\"-1\" data-t=\"{&quot;n&quot;:&quot;blueLinks&quot;}\" aria-expanded=\"true\">\u201cThey\u2019re going to have to be retired by 2030, if not sooner,\u201d the former senior NOAA official said. \u201cIt really depends on how many flights they do. So if we have a couple active seasons, they\u2019re going to hit their end of life a lot sooner.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" tabindex=\"-1\" data-t=\"{&quot;n&quot;:&quot;blueLinks&quot;}\" aria-expanded=\"true\">In its\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.omao.noaa.gov\/sites\/default\/files\/2022-12\/2022_Aircraft_Recapitalization_Plan_Final.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-t=\"{&quot;n&quot;:&quot;destination&quot;,&quot;t&quot;:13,&quot;b&quot;:1,&quot;c.t&quot;:7}\">2022 aircraft plan<\/a>, NOAA specified an \u201coperational requirement\u201d to procure four C-130 planes. The new aircraft would replace the two P-3s in service along with another one that was decommissioned in 2018, and provide the agency with \u201cone additional aircraft to meet the expanding airborne data requirements and objectives,\u201d according to the plan.<\/p>\n<div class=\"article-image-slot image-slot-placeholder\" tabindex=\"-1\" data-image-href=\"https:\/\/www.msn.com\/en-us\/news\/other\/as-idalia-hit-florida-all-of-noaa-s-hurricane-hunting-planes-were-grounded\/ar-AA1g0ImK?fullscreen=true#image=3\" data-doc-id=\"cms\/api\/amp\/image\/AA1g0rqD\" data-rendered=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"true\">\n<div class=\"article-image-container \">\n<div><\/div>\n<p><a class=\"article-image-height-wrapper article-image-height-wrapper-new\" href=\"https:\/\/www.msn.com\/en-us\/news\/other\/as-idalia-hit-florida-all-of-noaa-s-hurricane-hunting-planes-were-grounded\/ar-AA1g0ImK?fullscreen=true#image=3\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"article-image article-image-ux-impr article-image-new\" title=\"Lt. Commander Sam Urato points to decals on a Lockheed WP-3D Orion &quot;hurricane hunter&quot; in Arlington, Va., in May 2022.\" src=\"https:\/\/img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net\/tenant\/amp\/entityid\/AA1g0rqD.img?w=768&amp;h=510&amp;m=6\" alt=\"Lt. Commander Sam Urato points to decals on a Lockheed WP-3D Orion &quot;hurricane hunter&quot; in Arlington, Va., in May 2022.\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"image-caption-container image-caption-container-ux-impr content-small-text \"><span class=\"image-caption\">Lt. Commander Sam Urato points to decals on a Lockheed WP-3D Orion &#8220;hurricane hunter&#8221; in Arlington, Va., in May 2022.<\/span><span class=\"image-attribution image-attribution-ux-impr\">\u00a9\u00a0Gemunu Amarasinghe\/AP<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<h3 class=\"article-sub-heading\" tabindex=\"-1\" aria-expanded=\"true\">Tracking Idalia<\/h3>\n<p class=\"\" tabindex=\"-1\" data-t=\"{&quot;n&quot;:&quot;blueLinks&quot;}\" aria-expanded=\"true\">The most important time for gathering data from deep inside a hurricane is two or four days out, when officials are making decisions about warnings, said James Franklin, a former NOAA hurricane specialist.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" tabindex=\"-1\" data-t=\"{&quot;n&quot;:&quot;blueLinks&quot;}\" aria-expanded=\"true\">The information collected by the hurricane-hunting planes is \u201cextraordinarily valuable\u201d for forecasting, said Steven Morey, an oceanographer at Florida A&amp;M University. \u201cIf they don\u2019t get quality data to assimilate in their analysis runs, then there\u2019s going to be a degradation in the forecasts,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" tabindex=\"-1\" data-t=\"{&quot;n&quot;:&quot;blueLinks&quot;}\" aria-expanded=\"true\">As Idalia moved through the Gulf of Mexico gathering strength, Miss Piggy and Gonzo, along with Air Force C-130s, flew missions that fed data back to the Hurricane Center. Kermit, grounded with a maintenance issue, did not fly the entire time before the storm moved ashore, one of the current NOAA employees said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" tabindex=\"-1\" data-t=\"{&quot;n&quot;:&quot;blueLinks&quot;}\" aria-expanded=\"true\">The Gulfstream jet flew missions through Monday evening, according to NOAA\u2019s Smullen.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" tabindex=\"-1\" data-t=\"{&quot;n&quot;:&quot;blueLinks&quot;}\" aria-expanded=\"true\">With two alternating crews, the sturdy P-3 was able to maintain regular monitoring flights into the storm as it approached Florida, the NOAA employee said. But early Wednesday morning, the battered plane was grounded.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" tabindex=\"-1\" data-t=\"{&quot;n&quot;:&quot;blueLinks&quot;}\" aria-expanded=\"true\">Smullen confirmed that one of the agency\u2019s P-3 planes had been \u201cconducting back-to-back, round-the-clock research missions for 11 of the past 12 days on Hurricanes Franklin and Idalia, [and] experienced a mechanical issue, forcing the cancellation of a mission this morning to collect data on Hurricane Idalia.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" tabindex=\"-1\" data-t=\"{&quot;n&quot;:&quot;blueLinks&quot;}\" aria-expanded=\"true\">Jeff Masters, a former flight meteorologist for NOAA, said the airplane data is more critical when storms are farther from shore. \u201cThe loss of the P-3 data is not a big issue in this case, since the hurricane was close to landfall at the time and was being well sampled by land-based radar,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" tabindex=\"-1\" data-t=\"{&quot;n&quot;:&quot;blueLinks&quot;}\" aria-expanded=\"true\">And the Hurricane Center did receive data as the storm came ashore from the Air Force flight that had also been requested.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" tabindex=\"-1\" data-t=\"{&quot;n&quot;:&quot;blueLinks&quot;}\" aria-expanded=\"true\">Still, Masters said, \u201cIt is fortunate that the P-3 did not go out of service a day or two before landfall, when such data is extremely valuable for model predictions.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" tabindex=\"-1\" data-t=\"{&quot;n&quot;:&quot;blueLinks&quot;}\" aria-expanded=\"true\">NOAA has stopped its flights now that Idalia has moved over land, Smullen said, noting that the agency deploys the aircraft only when the storm\u2019s center is over water.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" tabindex=\"-1\" data-t=\"{&quot;n&quot;:&quot;blueLinks&quot;}\" aria-expanded=\"true\">Both P-3 planes are expected to return to service by next week, he added, while the Gulfstream is undergoing maintenance to fix a flight control mechanism.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" tabindex=\"-1\" data-t=\"{&quot;n&quot;:&quot;blueLinks&quot;}\" aria-expanded=\"true\">Still, the recent plane troubles have heightened concerns among some as the agency braces for more hurricanes this year and beyond.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" tabindex=\"-1\" data-t=\"{&quot;n&quot;:&quot;blueLinks&quot;}\" aria-expanded=\"true\">\u201cWe\u2019re not out of the woods,\u201d the NOAA employee said, noting that the peak of this hurricane season is probably still coming. \u201cWe\u2019re just getting started.\u201d<\/p>\n<p tabindex=\"-1\" data-t=\"{&quot;n&quot;:&quot;blueLinks&quot;}\" aria-expanded=\"true\">___<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.msn.com\/en-us\/news\/other\/as-idalia-hit-florida-all-of-noaa-s-hurricane-hunting-planes-were-grounded\/ar-AA1g0ImK\">https:\/\/www.msn.com\/en-us\/news\/other\/as-idalia-hit-florida-all-of-noaa-s-hurricane-hunting-planes-were-grounded\/ar-AA1g0ImK<\/a><\/p>\n<p tabindex=\"-1\" data-t=\"{&quot;n&quot;:&quot;blueLinks&quot;}\" aria-expanded=\"true\">\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>As Idalia hit Florida, all of NOAA\u2019s hurricane-hunting planes were grounded<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-184041","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/stateofthenation.co\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/184041","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/stateofthenation.co\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/stateofthenation.co\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/stateofthenation.co\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/stateofthenation.co\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=184041"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/stateofthenation.co\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/184041\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/stateofthenation.co\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=184041"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/stateofthenation.co\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=184041"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/stateofthenation.co\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=184041"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}