{"id":34182,"date":"2020-10-31T16:23:04","date_gmt":"2020-10-31T20:23:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/stateofthenation.co\/?p=34182"},"modified":"2020-10-31T16:23:04","modified_gmt":"2020-10-31T20:23:04","slug":"the-polls-were-very-wrong-in-2016-and-will-be-even-more-wrong-in-2020","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/stateofthenation.co\/?p=34182","title":{"rendered":"The polls were very wrong in 2016 and will be even more wrong in 2020."},"content":{"rendered":"<h1>Here Is The Result If The Polls Are As Wrong In 2020 As They Were In 2016<\/h1>\n<p><!--more-->ZeroHedge.com<\/p>\n<p>While very fluid, we can track the latest results of the electronic prediction markets and polling data.<\/p>\n<p>PredictIt currently has a 66<a href=\"https:\/\/www.predictit.org\/markets\/detail\/3698\/Who-will-win-the-2020-US-presidential-election\">% probability for a Biden victory<\/a>, which is up from a week ago at 62.9% and also higher than four weeks ago, although as usual one has to be aware of just how\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/politicalpredictionmarkets.com\/volume-and-liquidity-on-predictit\/\">little capital\u00a0<\/a>needs to be deployed to manipulate the illiquid PredictIt market (something every prominent Democratic financier with deep pockets would be well aware of in seeking to manipulate public sentiment in the cheapest possible way). A Trump victory has a roughly 39% probability according to this data, which is up slightly from 37.1% a week ago. The national polls \u2013 compiled by Real Clear Politics &#8211; suggest a similar tilt in the race with Biden having a 51.3%-43.5% lead against Trump.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.zerohedge.com\/s3\/files\/inline-images\/rcp%20polls.jpg?itok=vxZgiFwY\" data-image-external-href=\"\" data-image-href=\"\/s3\/files\/inline-images\/rcp%20polls.jpg?itok=vxZgiFwY\" data-link-option=\"0\"><picture><source srcset=\"https:\/\/zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com\/s3fs-public\/styles\/inline_image_desktop\/public\/inline-images\/rcp%20polls.jpg?itok=gm0sWYrk 1x\" type=\"image\/jpeg\" media=\"all and (min-width: 1280px)\" \/><source srcset=\"https:\/\/zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com\/s3fs-public\/styles\/inline_image_desktop\/public\/inline-images\/rcp%20polls.jpg?itok=gm0sWYrk 1x\" type=\"image\/jpeg\" media=\"all and (min-width: 480px)\" \/><source srcset=\"https:\/\/zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com\/s3fs-public\/styles\/inline_image_desktop\/public\/inline-images\/rcp%20polls.jpg?itok=gm0sWYrk 1x, https:\/\/zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com\/s3fs-public\/styles\/inline_image_desktop\/public\/inline-images\/rcp%20polls.jpg?itok=gm0sWYrk 2x\" type=\"image\/jpeg\" media=\"all and (min-width: 1024px)\" \/><source srcset=\"https:\/\/zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com\/s3fs-public\/styles\/inline_image_desktop\/public\/inline-images\/rcp%20polls.jpg?itok=gm0sWYrk 1x\" type=\"image\/jpeg\" media=\"all and (min-width: 768px)\" \/><source srcset=\"https:\/\/zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com\/s3fs-public\/styles\/inline_image_mobile\/public\/inline-images\/rcp%20polls.jpg?itok=vxZgiFwY 1x\" type=\"image\/jpeg\" \/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com\/s3fs-public\/inline-images\/rcp%20polls.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"337\" data-entity-type=\"file\" data-entity-uuid=\"4ee3e409-b63e-415a-bdd1-b4cadeb7b965\" data-responsive-image-style=\"inline_images\" \/><\/picture><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Digging into the state polling in competitive states, Biden currently leads in all the battleground, or &#8220;toss up&#8221; states except for Ohio, Arizona and Texas. This would give him a comfortable Electoral College (EC) victory of 346-192&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.zerohedge.com\/s3\/files\/inline-images\/toss%20ups.jpg?itok=bFlheTlj\" data-image-external-href=\"\" data-image-href=\"\/s3\/files\/inline-images\/toss%20ups.jpg?itok=bFlheTlj\" data-link-option=\"0\"><picture><source srcset=\"https:\/\/zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com\/s3fs-public\/styles\/inline_image_desktop\/public\/inline-images\/toss%20ups.jpg?itok=DzoWSqC1 1x\" type=\"image\/jpeg\" media=\"all and (min-width: 1280px)\" \/><source srcset=\"https:\/\/zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com\/s3fs-public\/styles\/inline_image_desktop\/public\/inline-images\/toss%20ups.jpg?itok=DzoWSqC1 1x\" type=\"image\/jpeg\" media=\"all and (min-width: 480px)\" \/><source srcset=\"https:\/\/zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com\/s3fs-public\/styles\/inline_image_desktop\/public\/inline-images\/toss%20ups.jpg?itok=DzoWSqC1 1x, https:\/\/zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com\/s3fs-public\/styles\/inline_image_desktop\/public\/inline-images\/toss%20ups.jpg?itok=DzoWSqC1 2x\" type=\"image\/jpeg\" media=\"all and (min-width: 1024px)\" \/><source srcset=\"https:\/\/zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com\/s3fs-public\/styles\/inline_image_desktop\/public\/inline-images\/toss%20ups.jpg?itok=DzoWSqC1 1x\" type=\"image\/jpeg\" media=\"all and (min-width: 768px)\" \/><source srcset=\"https:\/\/zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com\/s3fs-public\/styles\/inline_image_mobile\/public\/inline-images\/toss%20ups.jpg?itok=bFlheTlj 1x\" type=\"image\/jpeg\" \/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com\/s3fs-public\/inline-images\/toss%20ups.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"408\" data-entity-type=\"file\" data-entity-uuid=\"b0626b6c-94ac-48e5-bcc3-dfc74b75a3bd\" data-responsive-image-style=\"inline_images\" \/><\/picture><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&#8230; even though RCP&#8217;s average polls of Top Battleground states (FL, PA, MI, WI, NC, AZ), is now just +3.1 in Biden&#8217;s favor and down from 5% to weeks ago, with Arizona just flipping to Trump in the past 24 hours.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.zerohedge.com\/s3\/files\/inline-images\/battelground%202.jpg?itok=NCNx3v1i\" data-image-external-href=\"\" data-image-href=\"\/s3\/files\/inline-images\/battelground%202.jpg?itok=NCNx3v1i\" data-link-option=\"0\"><picture><source srcset=\"https:\/\/zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com\/s3fs-public\/styles\/inline_image_desktop\/public\/inline-images\/battelground%202.jpg?itok=3nWsqZv6 1x\" type=\"image\/jpeg\" media=\"all and (min-width: 1280px)\" \/><source srcset=\"https:\/\/zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com\/s3fs-public\/styles\/inline_image_desktop\/public\/inline-images\/battelground%202.jpg?itok=3nWsqZv6 1x\" type=\"image\/jpeg\" media=\"all and (min-width: 480px)\" \/><source srcset=\"https:\/\/zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com\/s3fs-public\/styles\/inline_image_desktop\/public\/inline-images\/battelground%202.jpg?itok=3nWsqZv6 1x, https:\/\/zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com\/s3fs-public\/styles\/inline_image_desktop\/public\/inline-images\/battelground%202.jpg?itok=3nWsqZv6 2x\" type=\"image\/jpeg\" media=\"all and (min-width: 1024px)\" \/><source srcset=\"https:\/\/zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com\/s3fs-public\/styles\/inline_image_desktop\/public\/inline-images\/battelground%202.jpg?itok=3nWsqZv6 1x\" type=\"image\/jpeg\" media=\"all and (min-width: 768px)\" \/><source srcset=\"https:\/\/zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com\/s3fs-public\/styles\/inline_image_mobile\/public\/inline-images\/battelground%202.jpg?itok=NCNx3v1i 1x\" type=\"image\/jpeg\" \/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com\/s3fs-public\/inline-images\/battelground%202.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"434\" data-entity-type=\"file\" data-entity-uuid=\"86090db2-6009-4d72-ae48-f67ce21bebef\" data-responsive-image-style=\"inline_images\" \/><\/picture><\/a><\/p>\n<p>That said, polls are imperfect as 2016 demonstrated \u2013 indeed, if we apply the polling miss from 2016 as Bank of America did last week, Florida, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Georgia, Iowa and and Maine would flip. For this exercise we have used the latest RCP polling average data as of Oct 31:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Arizona:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.realclearpolitics.com\/epolls\/2020\/president\/az\/arizona_trump_vs_biden-6807.html\">Trump +0.6<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Florida:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.realclearpolitics.com\/epolls\/2020\/president\/fl\/florida_trump_vs_biden-6841.html\">Biden +1.2<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Michigan:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.realclearpolitics.com\/epolls\/2020\/president\/mi\/michigan_trump_vs_biden-6761.html\">Biden +6.5<\/a><\/li>\n<li>North Carolina:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.realclearpolitics.com\/epolls\/2020\/president\/nc\/north_carolina_trump_vs_biden-6744.html\">Biden +1.2<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Pennsylvania:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.realclearpolitics.com\/epolls\/2020\/president\/pa\/pennsylvania_trump_vs_biden-6861.html\">Biden +3.7<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Wisconsin:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.realclearpolitics.com\/epolls\/2020\/president\/wi\/wisconsin_trump_vs_biden-6849.html\">Biden +6.4<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Georgia:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.realclearpolitics.com\/epolls\/2020\/president\/Georgia.html\">Biden +0.8<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Iowa:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.realclearpolitics.com\/epolls\/2020\/president\/Iowa.html\">Biden +1.2<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Maine 2:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.realclearpolitics.com\/epolls\/2020\/president\/mecd2\/maine_cd2_trump_vs_biden-7215.html\">Biden +2.7<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Minnesota:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.realclearpolitics.com\/epolls\/2020\/president\/mn\/minnesota_trump_vs_biden-6966.html\">Biden +4.7<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Nebraska-2:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.realclearpolitics.com\/epolls\/2020\/house\/ne\/nebraska_2nd_district-7128.html\">Biden +7.8<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Nevada:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www1.realclearpolitics.com\/epolls\/2020\/president\/Nevada.html\">Biden +4.0<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Ohio:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.realclearpolitics.com\/epolls\/2020\/president\/oh\/ohio_trump_vs_biden-6765.html\">Tie<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Texas:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.realclearpolitics.com\/epolls\/2020\/president\/Texas.html\">Trump +2.3<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>These numbers are then adjusted by applying the same error rates as were observed during the 2016 polling, and the results are shown in the table below:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.zerohedge.com\/s3\/files\/inline-images\/trump%20vs%20biden%202016%20errors.jpg?itok=vHWgzVqn\" data-image-external-href=\"\" data-image-href=\"\/s3\/files\/inline-images\/trump%20vs%20biden%202016%20errors.jpg?itok=vHWgzVqn\" data-link-option=\"0\"><picture><source srcset=\"https:\/\/zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com\/s3fs-public\/styles\/inline_image_desktop\/public\/inline-images\/trump%20vs%20biden%202016%20errors.jpg?itok=YMVbYa_L 1x\" type=\"image\/jpeg\" media=\"all and (min-width: 1280px)\" \/><source srcset=\"https:\/\/zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com\/s3fs-public\/styles\/inline_image_desktop\/public\/inline-images\/trump%20vs%20biden%202016%20errors.jpg?itok=YMVbYa_L 1x\" type=\"image\/jpeg\" media=\"all and (min-width: 480px)\" \/><source srcset=\"https:\/\/zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com\/s3fs-public\/styles\/inline_image_desktop\/public\/inline-images\/trump%20vs%20biden%202016%20errors.jpg?itok=YMVbYa_L 1x, https:\/\/zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com\/s3fs-public\/styles\/inline_image_desktop\/public\/inline-images\/trump%20vs%20biden%202016%20errors.jpg?itok=YMVbYa_L 2x\" type=\"image\/jpeg\" media=\"all and (min-width: 1024px)\" \/><source srcset=\"https:\/\/zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com\/s3fs-public\/styles\/inline_image_desktop\/public\/inline-images\/trump%20vs%20biden%202016%20errors.jpg?itok=YMVbYa_L 1x\" type=\"image\/jpeg\" media=\"all and (min-width: 768px)\" \/><source srcset=\"https:\/\/zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com\/s3fs-public\/styles\/inline_image_mobile\/public\/inline-images\/trump%20vs%20biden%202016%20errors.jpg?itok=vHWgzVqn 1x\" type=\"image\/jpeg\" \/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com\/s3fs-public\/inline-images\/trump%20vs%20biden%202016%20errors.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"201\" data-entity-type=\"file\" data-entity-uuid=\"6c00414a-f0ea-488b-9985-ec161bed1129\" data-responsive-image-style=\"inline_images\" \/><\/picture><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Remarkably, if the polls are as wrong as they were in 2016,\u00a0<strong>Trump would win with 279 of the 538 electoral votes, while Biden would get 259.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Still, the margin of victory would be within 0.5 percentage points in Wisconsin (for Biden) and Georgia (for Trump), which would trigger an automatic recount and delay results. In addition,\u00a0<strong>the margin in Pennsylvania and Florida would be less than 1.0%, likely resulting in a bitter post-election night fight and contested outcomes.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>In short, no matter what happens on Nov 3, expect recounts and extensive delays before we have a clear winner.<\/p>\n<p>Putting this together,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.bloomberg.com\/news\/articles\/2020-10-31\/trump-bid-to-repeat-poll-defying-2016-win-runs-into-2020-reality?sref=6uww027M\">Bloomberg said it best:\u00a0<\/a>&#8220;All of that means a Trump win on Tuesday would represent a historically staggering failure by public opinion polls, eclipsing even the 2016 miss. While the president\u2019s chances of being re-elected aren\u2019t zero, pollsters say it\u2019s a long shot.&#8221;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>\u201cIf Donald Trump wins, in 2020, anything close to a decisive Electoral College win knowable on election night, that would have repercussions for the research profession that would ripple forever &#8212; and deservedly so,\u201d\u00a0<\/strong>said Jay Leve, chief executive officer of SurveyUSA, a polling firm.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>As Bloomberg notes, Level and other pollsters say the election outcomes range from a blowout Biden win to a closely fought contest that could hinge on recounts and court rulings that either candidate could win. They don\u2019t consider a clear, quick and decisive Trump victory among the possibilities.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt would be astonishing,\u201d Leve said.<\/p>\n<p>___<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.zerohedge.com\/markets\/here-result-if-polls-are-wrong-2020-they-were-2016\">https:\/\/www.zerohedge.com\/markets\/here-result-if-polls-are-wrong-2020-they-were-2016<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Here Is The Result If The Polls Are As Wrong In 2020 As They Were In 2016<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-34182","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/stateofthenation.co\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/34182","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/stateofthenation.co\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/stateofthenation.co\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/stateofthenation.co\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/stateofthenation.co\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=34182"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/stateofthenation.co\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/34182\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/stateofthenation.co\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=34182"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/stateofthenation.co\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=34182"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/stateofthenation.co\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=34182"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}