{"id":151743,"date":"2022-12-26T11:02:36","date_gmt":"2022-12-26T15:02:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/stateofthenation.co\/?p=151743"},"modified":"2022-12-26T11:39:50","modified_gmt":"2022-12-26T15:39:50","slug":"the-american-domestic-bioterrorism-program-explained-video","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stateofthenation.co\/?p=151743","title":{"rendered":"<h2>The American Domestic Bioterrorism Program Explained (Video + Transcript)<\/h2>"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: center;\"><b> Discussion with Katherine Watt on<br \/>\nAmerican Domestic Bioterrorism Program<\/b><\/h2>\n<p>Posted by <a href=\"https:\/\/ratical.org\/PandemicParallaxView\/ALwKW-DomesticBioteroProg-110422.html\">ratical.org<\/a><\/p>\n<div><iframe loading=\"lazy\" id=\"odysee-iframe\" src=\"https:\/\/odysee.com\/$\/embed\/@PandemicParallaxView:6\/ALwKW-USDomesticBioterrorismProg:3?r=6Taye1Re6jxwhj3cTTrKKJU53rH7Rv6Y\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\" data-mce-fragment=\"1\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/ratical.org\/PandemicParallaxView\/ALwKW-DomesticBioteroProg-110422.html#S1\">This discussion<\/a> centers on Katherine Watt\u2019s analysis in <a href=\"https:\/\/bailiwicknews.substack.com\/p\/american-domestic-bioterrorism-program\">American Domestic Terrorism Program<\/a> (ADTP), published 28 April 2022 on her substack with ongoing updates. The following excerpts from the opening of ADTP set the framework:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>A whole lot of things that once were federal and state crimes and civil rights violations have been legalized by Congress through legislative, statutory revisions to the United States Code, signed by US Presidents, and implemented at the administrative, regulatory level by the Department of Health and Human Services and Department of Defense through the Code of Federal Regulations&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p>I think the critical decay began around 1983, when the \u2018public health emergencies\u2019 section was added to the <a href=\"https:\/\/uscode.house.gov\/statviewer.htm?volume=58&amp;page=682#\">1944 Public Health Service Act<\/a>, although the 1944 PHSA itself represented an additional militarization of human medicine in the United States. Most of the worst laws have been passed since 2000 \u2013 just before 9\/11 and the US Department of Defense false flag anthrax attacks. They are listed below, with links to the full text of each law, and a short summary of what I understand about how each one fits into the overall scheme&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p>In other words: Congress and US Presidents legalized and funded the overthrow of the U.S. Constitution, the U.S. government and the American people, through a massive domestic bioterrorism program relabeled as a public health program, conducted by the HHS Secretary and Secretary of Defense on behalf of the World Health Organization and its financial backers.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<div>\n<p><b>Katherine Watt<\/b> is a <a href=\"https:\/\/bailiwicknews.substack.com\/about\">self-described Roman Catholic, American, Gen-X writer, paralegal, printmaker, wife and mother<\/a>. She founded <i>Baliwick News<\/i> as an independent newspaper in 2016. The name reflects \u201cthe sociopolitical, economic and legal status of the American people as peasant subjects in a neo-feudal, global jurisdiction of control and oppression; we are no longer sovereign citizens of a functioning Constitutional republic.\u201d The scope of her critical analysis of US law and history of legislation as it pertains to human medicine is formative and profound. <a href=\"https:\/\/prometheusshrugged.substack.com\/about\">Charles Rixey<\/a> writes of Katherine Watt, \u201cExcellent coverage of the legal implications of the pandemic\u201d. As <a href=\"https:\/\/bailiwicknews.substack.com\/about\">Watt describes her research and writing focus<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"quoteLS\"><p>I work on finding, reading, analyzing and reporting on <a href=\"https:\/\/bailiwicknews.substack.com\/p\/american-domestic-bioterrorism-program?s=w\" rel=\"\">statutes and regulations<\/a> passed by US Congress, and executive orders and legislation signed by US presidents, implemented by US Health and Human Services secretaries and Secretaries of Defense, mostly <a href=\"https:\/\/bailiwicknews.substack.com\/p\/1983\">since 1983<\/a>, and on <a href=\"https:\/\/bailiwicknews.substack.com\/p\/where-does-the-current-supreme-court?s=w\" rel=\"\">judicial decisions<\/a> by federal and state courts, as criminal acts of treason that built the legal foundations for the unconstitutional, democidal American public health-police state, which was deployed fully for the first time on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.phe.gov\/emergency\/news\/healthactions\/phe\/Pages\/2019-nCoV.aspx\" rel=\"\">January 31, 2020 with HHS Secretary Alex Azar\u2019s declaration of public health emergency<\/a> on the Covid-19 pretext.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>From <a href=\"https:\/\/bailiwicknews.substack.com\/p\/some-thinking-about-tampering-with\">Some thinking about tampering with evidence and spoliation<\/a>, 16 Nov 2022:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"quoteLS\"><p>I\u2019m not a lawyer. I\u2019m a paralegal and writer. I do legal research and writing that can be used to support civil and criminal cases when private attorneys and\/or public prosecutors decide to draft and file in US courts. I\u2019ve been able to do the research covered at Bailiwick because I\u2019m not a lawyer. I can devote time to research and writing, because I haven\u2019t been handling any part of the flood of non-treason cases \u2014 challenging mask, test and vaxx mandates, prying clinical trial data out of the FDA, fighting for jobs and businesses and military careers \u2014 that warrior-attorneys like <a href=\"https:\/\/substack.com\/profile\/1329615-warner-mendenhall\">Warner Mendenhall<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/stevekirsch.substack.com\/p\/vsrf-call-today-brook-jackson-robert\">Robert<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/vivabarneslaw.locals.com\/\">Barnes<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/substack.com\/profile\/45832042-jeff-childers?utm_source=about-page\">Jeff Childers<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/ratical.org\/PandemicParallaxView\/ToddCallender-CCsession97-032522.html\">Todd Callender<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/renz-law.com\/\">Tom Renz<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/AaronSiriSG\">Aaron Siri<\/a> and hundreds of other, less-well-known lawyers have been heroically bringing these past three years.Private attorneys and public prosecutors are unlikely to file treason, terrorism and related federal criminal cases, and federal judges are unlikely to accept such cases, without significant, well-informed public pressure. That\u2019s the other main purpose of Bailiwick: educating and mobilizing more people to exert social and political pressure on attorneys and judges, to terminate the interlocking control-and-cull campaigns operated under a fraudulent national emergency framework; hold accountable the US Government officials who pseudo-authorize, actually-fund, and run the programs; and set up relief programs for injured victims and the survivors of the dead.<\/p>\n<p>I post sacred art with my writing because I\u2019m Catholic, the art is beautiful, the saints are inspiring, and without <a href=\"https:\/\/bailiwicknews.substack.com\/p\/ternaries-and-trinities\">the faith that my father passed down to me<\/a>, I could not do this work.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><b>Sasha Latypova<\/b>\u2014see <a href=\"https:\/\/sashalatypova.substack.com\/p\/be-not-afraid\"><b>Be Not Afraid<\/b>: Introduction, My Background and Motivation<\/a> at <a href=\"https:\/\/sashalatypova.substack.com\/\">her substack<\/a>\u2014<a href=\"https:\/\/www.trialsitenews.com\/p\/latypova?tab=published\">writes at <i>Trial Site News<\/i><\/a> on mRNA Fraud &#8211; Regulatory and Manufacturing Investigations. Her Due Diligence program is published on the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bitchute.com\/channel\/7dNrFbLeGSev\/\">Team Enigma &#8211; How Bad is Your Batch?<\/a> bitchute channel. Latypova is an ex-pharma\/biotech professional with 25 years experience in clinical trials, clinical technologies, and regulatory approvals. She owned\/managed several contract research organizations, worked for 60+ pharma companies worldwide, and interacted with FDA as part of a scientific industry consortium on improving cardiac safety assessments in clinical trials.<br \/>\nIn her own words: \u201cI am a retired pharmaceutical R&amp;D executive. I worked in pharma clinical trials and ran several clinical research organizations working for 60+ pharmas worldwide. My clients included Pfizer, J&amp;J, AstraZeneca and many other large and smaller companies. I also worked with the FDA and helped my clients prepare regulatory data submissions. I have an MBA degree from Dartmouth. Regarding bioweapons, all of this is based on me reading publicly available information &#8211; there are numerous DOD and academic studies, reports, and textbooks on this topic available online.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>On 12 November in a Side Note near the top of <a href=\"https:\/\/bailiwicknews.substack.com\/p\/more-sars-cov-2-and-spike-protein\">More SARS-CoV-2 and spike protein biology, immunology and vaccinology from Nov. 3 CHD panel discussion with Jonathan Couey, Robert Malone and others<\/a>, Katherine Watt crystalizes the mind-bending inculcated, media-reinforced, self-blinding mechanism beguiling many people and preventing breaking through the mind-fog to actually see clearly what is happening in our world.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"center-div td-left LinkVisBlu\">\n<div>\n<p>I was on a legal strategy and information call yesterday with Sasha Latypova and some others, and the discussion turned briefly to how difficult it is for many people to wrap their minds around the horrific truth that the US Government, functioning as a front company and project manager for the owners of the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theperspective.se\/2018\/12\/11\/article\/one-bank-to-rule-them-all-the-discreet-power-of-the-bank-for-international-settlement\/\">Bank <span style=\"text-decoration: line-through;\">of<\/span> for International Settlements<\/a> [<a href=\"https:\/\/www.technocracy.news\/global-banking-the-bank-for-international-settlements\/\">\u2020<\/a>][<a href=\"https:\/\/www.technocracy.news\/the-dark-past-of-the-bank-for-international-settlements\/\">\u2020\u2020<\/a>], is working to ruin and prematurely end the lives billions of people around the world, and has made a very good start to achieving the mass murder campaign\u2019s goals since launching Covid-19.<\/p>\n<p>Sasha, who was born in the Soviet Union, observed that it really shouldn\u2019t be hard to understand, because it\u2019s one of the most common features of governments. Sooner or later, most of them kill off a lot of their own people, and a lot of people of other countries.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s a blind spot for many Americans mostly because Americans don\u2019t learn about the government-run genocides of history in public schools, because that information is deliberately suppressed in American public school curricula.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m a product of American public schools; I graduated from high school in 1992. My history classes never discussed Soviet, Chinese, Cambodian or other government-sponsored genocides of the 20th century, or the persecutions and pogroms of previous centuries. They\u2019re not discussed in most high school curricula now.<\/p>\n<p>My ability to see these things is largely due to anomalies of my home life as a child and adolescent. God put me into the world as the daughter of a culturally mixed marriage (European mother, American father). I grew up in a psychologically-abusive family system my parents created and maintained, due to the forces that shaped them when they grew up in the 1940s and 1950s. Those forces shaped my strong critical thinking and bullshit-detection skills. I had to learn through painful, personal experience to see through lies, gaslighting and suppression of relevant counter-evidence, in order to maximize my odds of emotional and cognitive survival.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ve worked with evidence of diabolical, deadly government corruption daily for many years, so I have a deep understanding of how real it is. I still have to fight against the inculcated, media-reinforced self-blinding mechanism that recurrently nudges me back toward \u201cthis can\u2019t be real.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Sasha\u2019s point being: government-run mass murder is not at all an inconceivable crime.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s one of the most regularly-conceived and executed crimes in human history.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ll add to her point: this may be one of the first times that a government, [or dozens of governments simultaneously, coordinated and\/or coerced by the US Government,] has launched a population cull under the public health pretext and manipulated the available information so thoroughly that a large proportion of the victims have, in a seemingly-voluntary way, committed individual acts of suicide and homicide, under the instilled delusion that the cultural project is about protecting self, others, \u201cGrandma\u201d and the public good.<\/p>\n<p>But that too, can be seen as the logical progression from the Holocausts, genocides, and abortion campaigns launched last century, which each began under the pretext that the healthy, wanted members of society could and should protect themselves from the dangers posed by undesirables, by rounding up and killing the undesirables and leaving only the wanted people alive to carry civilization forward.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p><b> Selected critical analysis by Katherine Watt is <a href=\"https:\/\/ratical.org\/PandemicParallaxView\/ALwKW-DomesticBioteroProg-110422.html#SAofKW\">listed at the end of this transcript<\/a>. <\/b><\/p>\n<div id=\"S1\">\n<hr size=\"1\" \/>\n<\/div>\n<p>Sasha Latypova:<br \/>\nHello everyone. This is Sasha Latypova for <i>Trial Site News<\/i>. This is my show Due Diligence. Today I have a very important guest and very experienced legal researcher, Katherine Watt and I highly recommend everyone to read her substack, which is called <a href=\"https:\/\/bailiwicknews.substack.com\/\"><i>Bailiwick News<\/i><\/a>. Katherine has compiled an an encyclopedia of knowledge of how our rights, constitutional rights have been subverted. And really if you want to understand what\u2019s going on today with the Covid so-called pandemic, I highly recommend reading the substack and understanding the legal deception and structure behind it. Welcome Katherine. Would you like to introduce yourself and give some background?Katherine Watt:<br \/>\nYes, I should have prepared for that. I have a philosophy degree from Penn State. I worked as a reporter for a while for small newspapers. Then I got a paralegal certificate, and I worked for small law firms, mostly sole practitioners doing constitutional law and civil rights law, and a lot of other types of things. Then because of the way the media landscape changed in the mid-nineties, when blogs came along I opened a first blog in 2005, and I\u2019ve been doing independent reporting online since then. Then I started looking at the legal stuff for Covid when the lockdowns started in 2020.<\/p>\n<p>Sasha Latypova:<br \/>\nWhen I found your substack I was blown away by the depths of the research, by the writing, the quality of everything and the meticulous references that you\u2019ve compiled. It\u2019s a huge resource, very useful for everyone. But I stumbled on it. You have a post, and I think it\u2019s an overarching post that\u2019s called <a href=\"https:\/\/bailiwicknews.substack.com\/p\/american-domestic-bioterrorism-program\">American Domestic Bioterrorism Program<\/a>. I wanted to, as an introduction, would you explain to people why you call it that, and how you arrived at that conclusion?<\/p>\n<p>Katherine Watt:<br \/>\nI call it that because from the beginning of 2020 onward, I was trying to figure out what was going on, especially at the local level and the state level why the constitutional rights were not being protected by federal judges. There were some very early cases. There was one in Pennsylvania in, I think it was filed in May of 2020. And there was a good decision from a Federal Judge in September saying, You can\u2019t do these shutdowns of people\u2019s businesses. You can\u2019t do these things at schools. You can\u2019t, whatever. And then that was immediately stopped by the Third Circuit Court of Appeals. And that was confusing.<\/p>\n<p>Then in January, 2022, that\u2019s this year, I heard a podcast with <a href=\"https:\/\/ratical.org\/PandemicParallaxView\/ToddCallender-CCsession97-032522.html\">Todd Callender<\/a> on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.truthforhealth.org\/about-us-truth-for-health-foundation\/\">Dr. Elizabeth Lee Vliet<\/a>\u2019s show <a href=\"https:\/\/www.americaoutloud.com\/compulsory-vaccination-and-forced-quarantine-camps-in-arizona\/\">Truth for Health<\/a>, where he talked about the <a href=\"https:\/\/bailiwicknews.substack.com\/i\/49345984\/the-owners-through-the-world-health-organization-create-international-health-regulations\">2005 International Health Regulations<\/a> put together by\u2014it was an updated version that it turned out that the World Health Organization had put together\u2014International Health Regulations. Sometimes they called them International Sanitary Regulations. They changed the name, but they started it in the fifties, and then they\u2019ve updated it since. In <a href=\"https:\/\/www.who.int\/publications\/i\/item\/9789241580496\">the 2005 version<\/a>, they added in a whole lot more surveillance power and forced treatment powers and other things that the World Health Organization wanted the national governments to put into place through their own statutes and their own regulations, and through their state level statutes and regulations. After I heard the podcast, I went looking for the sources of what he had talked about, and then I started pulling on the threads and unraveled how they put it together from, well\u2014they started long before 2005. But things really ramped up in the two thousands. And then it got rolled out its fullest form so far in January, 2020.<\/p>\n<p>Sasha Latypova:<br \/>\nRight. I also was stunned by the long history of this. What was the earliest relevant piece of law that you can trace that was changed in particular for this plandemic to occur?<\/p>\n<p>Katherine Watt:<br \/>\nI think the earliest one was the <a href=\"https:\/\/bailiwicknews.substack.com\/p\/22-worst-congressional-bioterrorism\">1983 establishment<\/a> of the Public Health Emergencies Program under the rubric of the <a href=\"https:\/\/uscode.house.gov\/statviewer.htm?volume=58&amp;page=682#\">Public Health Services Act, which was a 1944 law<\/a>. But when Reagan and the Congress at the time put in the Public Health Emergencies section, that was the beginning of concentrating much, much more power in the hands of the Health and Human Services Secretary, whenever a public health emergency has been declared by the HHS Secretary. So it\u2019s a completely closed loop of once they declare it, they have all the power, and they are the only one who can suspend their power because of the way they wrote the laws, to the extent\u2014let\u2019s say\u2014to the extent that federal judges and Congress accept the premise that the executive branch can shut them out of everything after the announcement has been made.<\/p>\n<p>Sasha Latypova:<br \/>\nSo this unconstitutional, I would say, law was put in place in the eighties\u2014<\/p>\n<p>Katherine Watt:<br \/>\nYep.<\/p>\n<p>Sasha Latypova:<br \/>\n\u2014saying that this branch of government can usurp power\u2014<\/p>\n<p>Katherine Watt:<br \/>\nMm-hmm.<\/p>\n<p>Sasha Latypova:<br \/>\n\u2014pretty much at their own discretion. So what is a public health emergency and how\u2014does it have to have some sort of concrete set of rules, data, any threshold that needs to be reached for a public health emergency to be declared? Or is it just something that they describe as one?<\/p>\n<p>Katherine Watt:<br \/>\nSo far? I think it\u2019s just one that they describe as one. There may have been at the beginning\u2014no, it just said, public health emergencies is a thing. It\u2019s basically like a parallel version of a national emergency. So if they declare a national emergency because of a war or because of a natural disaster, that has all these cascade effects on other laws and other constitutional rights. This just added another version of that to be public health emergencies as part of medicalizing it. And I think probably as part of making it harder for people to see that it was a government usurpation or a government tyranny effort because people think, Oh, it\u2019s about public health. It\u2019s about protecting us.<\/p>\n<p>Sasha Latypova:<br \/>\nYes. So now looking at this in retrospect\u2014and of course I\u2019m familiar with your writing in this particular piece, that\u2019s why I\u2019m spending so much time on this particular question\u2014it becomes clearer now why with all this massive propaganda campaign, even up in years to this so-called Covid pandemic, was focused on these public health issues. But more, they wanted to propagandize specifically, viral pandemics.<\/p>\n<p>Katherine Watt:<br \/>\nYes.<\/p>\n<p>Sasha Latypova:<br \/>\nThrough media, through Hollywood, Netflix shows, books publications.<\/p>\n<p>Katherine Watt:<br \/>\nAnd through test runs, like SARS1 in 2003, H1N1 in 2009. Yeah.<\/p>\n<p>Sasha Latypova:<br \/>\nExactly. And then they would have these old stories about Ebola in Africa\u2014<\/p>\n<p>Katherine Watt:<br \/>\nYep.<\/p>\n<p>Sasha Latypova:<br \/>\n\u2014constantly barraging people with that idea. So they wanted that image of scary, scary virus that causes pandemic, that kills half of the world\u2019s population. Which is total nonsense, scientifically, I can assure you. But it\u2019s a figment of science fiction; plays on a lot of fears, of people\u2019s imagination, lots of productions in color.<\/p>\n<p>Katherine Watt:<br \/>\nYeah.<\/p>\n<p>Sasha Latypova:<br \/>\nAnd then, because they needed that to justify this\u2014because at least in a national emergency, you can point to something concrete, a big earthquake, a big [unintelligible], maybe somebody did attack us and a bomb exploded. You can point to concrete things. With this, it\u2019s more playing on imagination, on fears, on something invisible, an invisible threat that you can\u2019t identify. But it\u2019s so deadly and so stealthy. So that\u2019s how it all ties together with the long history of this.<\/p>\n<p>Katherine Watt:<br \/>\nYes. And it\u2019s way less destructive of infrastructure. It can destroy social structures and economic structures without actually taking out buildings and railroad tracks and factories with bombs. For the people who want to do the takeover, they can keep all of the productive facilities and get rid of the people who might otherwise want a share in the products produced there. They did it with board games too. I don\u2019t know if you mentioned that in your list. But my kids have a board game called, I think it\u2019s called Pandmemia or something [\u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/boardgamingparent.com\/pandemic-board-game-review-does-this-classic-still-have-it\/\">Pandemic<\/a>\u201d ? &#8211; originally released in <a href=\"https:\/\/boardgamegeek.com\/wiki\/page\/Pandemic_series#\">2008<\/a> \u2014<a href=\"https:\/\/ratical.org\/rhrPress.html\">editor<\/a>]. The whole premise of the game is you start off with rolling the dice or whatever, and it says that the pandemic has started in this country. The board is a map of the world. And then the goal of the people playing is to control it with medications and various things. It\u2019s Yeah.<\/p>\n<p>Sasha Latypova:<br \/>\nIncredible. I also recently watched\u2014and I think they also played into people\u2019s beliefs and religious beliefs in particular. For example, I recently stumbled on a production by History Channel, which was talking about, the book of Revelation, apocalypse, and they specifically used disease and the plagues and the disease part of it to fear monger like crazy. They got all these experts, I don\u2019t know where they got them from, to interview in this very overdramatic fashion saying that there can be\u2014and this was a few years before 2020.<\/p>\n<p>Katherine Watt:<br \/>\nRight.<\/p>\n<p>Sasha Latypova:<br \/>\nSaying that there could be this stealthy virus that, imagine you\u2019re walking around without symptoms.<\/p>\n<p>Katherine Watt:<br \/>\nYes.<\/p>\n<p>Sasha Latypova:<br \/>\nAnd it spreads and then 500 million people dead. And overdramatizing this nonsense, [that] it exist like this in nature. But they\u2019re making this up and they\u2019re pretending like this is a big deal, real deal. Very stealthy, very dangerous. So that the government needs to protect you from this.<\/p>\n<p>Katherine Watt:<br \/>\nYes. And that piece about, <i>before you even have symptoms<\/i> is super, super important. Because they came up with the term <a href=\"https:\/\/ratical.org\/PandemicParallaxView\/Conscience-and-The-Nuremberg-Code.html#pillar3\">asymptomatic<\/a>. And they also\u2014I just found the other day in a Health and Human Services regulation, \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/tinyurl.com\/HHSprecommunicable\">precommunicable<\/a>\u201d, That\u2019s even more than asymptomatic. It\u2019s before communicable. And they put that in [<a href=\"https:\/\/www.govinfo.gov\/content\/pkg\/USCODE-2011-title42\/html\/USCODE-2011-title42-chap6A-subchapII-partG.htm\">U.S.C Title 42, Part G\u2014Quarantine and Inspection, \u00a7264. Regulations to control communicable diseases<\/a>] as this is a thing that we\u2019re going try to keep track of, so that if it\u2019s even in just the precommunicable stage, we can still quarantine people.<\/p>\n<p>Sasha Latypova:<br \/>\nIt\u2019s absolutely incredible. They can quarantine you. So the government can take you away from your family, your children from your family, based on an unidentifiable pathogen of which you are not symptomatic and you have no ability to transmit it to anyone. So basically just take you away\u2014<\/p>\n<p>Katherine Watt:<br \/>\nFor no reason. Yeah.<\/p>\n<p>Sasha Latypova:<br \/>\nFor no reason whatsoever. So that\u2019s what I want people to clearly understand. The second question I had is about this other transactional authority. I think you covered it really, really well. I will attach the document that you gave me to this video. But I want people to understand, because not a lot of people are familiar with this at all.<\/p>\n<p>Katherine Watt:<br \/>\nRight. I came across it because of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.covidlawcast.com\/p\/brook-jackson-pfizer-whistleblower\">Brook Jackson\u2019s case<\/a>. Brook Jackson is the whistleblower who was working for Ventavia, who was a subcontracted to Pfizer under the contract Pfizer had with the Department of the Defense to produce a hundred million doses of what they call a vaccine and distribute it through the DOD to all the people in the United States. Brook Jackson, as soon as she got to her trial site\u2014she had three\u2014in Texas, she noticed there were terrible problems with the clinical trials. She reported it first to her bosses at Ventavia, then to people at Pfizer. Then she tried to file, I think an anonymous hotline report, to the FDA and within hours of the FDA report, she was fired. Then she filed a False Claims Act case because her theory at that time was that Pfizer was defrauding the U.S. government by falsely saying they were doing good clinical trials, and that the U.S. government would want to know this because they would want to not spend money on a fraudulently produced product.<\/p>\n<p>It turned out that that is not the case. The U.S. government was in on the fraudulent clinical trials and in on the whole fraud entirely. That came out in <a href=\"https:\/\/bailiwicknews.substack.com\/p\/pfizers-motion-to-dismiss-the-brook\">Pfizer\u2019s April 2022 motion to dismiss<\/a>. Because Brook, when she filed her False Claims Act, she attached the Statement of Work, which was a contract that was supposed to govern how the clinical trials were done. And in its motion to dismiss Pfizer attached another <a href=\"https:\/\/bailiwicknews.substack.com\/p\/other-transactional-authority-ota\">contract called an Other Transaction Authority<\/a>\u2014OTA contract\u2014saying in effect, no, we had no obligation to conduct valid clinical trials because the only goods and services we were providing to the U.S. government, according to this contract are a large scale manufacturing demonstration for a prototype. So they split off the clinical trials from the manufacturing and production side. I looked at that contract and had already come to the conclusion that it was a joint fraud between Pfizer and the DOD. And this corroborated that in Pfizer\u2019s own words.<\/p>\n<p>So the OTA is a separate contracting, purchasing framework that U.S. government agencies can enter into with private companies. And the report that I sent you is from KEI. The title of it is <a href=\"https:\/\/www.keionline.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/KEI-Briefing-OTA-29june2020.pdf\">Other Transaction Agreements: Government Contracts that Eliminate Protections for the Public on Pricing, Access and Competition, Including in Connection with COVID 19 Vaccines and Treatments<\/a> [<a href=\"https:\/\/www.keionline.org\/bn-2020-3\">KEI Briefing Note 2020: 3 Other Transaction Agreements: Government Contracts that May Eliminate Protections for the Public on Pricing, Access and Competition, Including in Connection with COVID-19<\/a>; <a href=\"https:\/\/ratical.org\/PandemicParallaxView\/KEI-Briefing-OTA-29june2020.pdf\">local PDF<\/a>]. It started in 1958, according to that report through NASA. But it\u2019s since been expanded to, I think they said, 11 agencies have it now, have this special authority that Congress has given them to enter into these contracts. And it suspends all kinds of oversight.<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s the bottom line of what an OTA does. In my view, Pfizer is probably correct that under the terms of the OTA, they had no obligation to ever conduct a valid clinical trial. They could make the entire thing a fraud. They could make the entire thing seem to be real and said that actual data, but it didn\u2019t have to be good data. It didn\u2019t have to be in compliance with any of the regulations that otherwise govern clinical trials. That\u2019s why in the one piece I\u2019ve done on it, I compared it to the Emergency Use Authorization because <a href=\"https:\/\/bailiwicknews.substack.com\/p\/other-transactional-authority-ota\">OTA did for the financial contracting side, what EUA did to the drug regulation side<\/a>: they both just took them out of the normal.<\/p>\n<p>Sasha Latypova:<br \/>\nSo this is a structure by which the government can essentially wave for themselves all the normal rules and regulations for development approval of otherwise regulated products such as pharmaceuticals.<\/p>\n<p>Katherine Watt:<br \/>\nRight.<\/p>\n<p>Sasha Latypova:<br \/>\nAnd order that thing that now has no regulations attached to it.<\/p>\n<p>Katherine Watt:<br \/>\nRight.<\/p>\n<p>Sasha Latypova:<br \/>\nFrom the private manufacturer who otherwise would be regulated by those rules.<\/p>\n<p>Katherine Watt:<br \/>\nYes.<\/p>\n<p>Sasha Latypova:<br \/>\nSo, that\u2019s, again, that needs to be understood very clearly. And when you said they order prototypes, Is prototype defined? What is prototype?<\/p>\n<p>Katherine Watt:<br \/>\nPrototype is one of, I think it\u2019s one of the keywords that makes it clearer that <a href=\"https:\/\/bailiwicknews.substack.com\/p\/covid-19-injectable-bioweapons-as\">it\u2019s a bioweapon<\/a> and not a drug, or it\u2019s a drug that is a bioweapon, basically. But prototype just has to do with, it\u2019s,&#8230;&#8230; I don\u2019t even know how they explain it. It\u2019s a product that doesn\u2019t have other regulatory meanings. It\u2019s &#8230;.. I can\u2014I should look into that more, &#8230; like where in the, in the statutes prototype is defined. But what it boils down to is it\u2019s a military product as part of a military project. It\u2019s not a pharmaceutical project as part of a public health project.<\/p>\n<p>Sasha Latypova:<br \/>\nI\u2019ve been talking a lot about the fact that the DOD ordered all these prototypes and all these countermeasures.<\/p>\n<p>Katherine Watt:<br \/>\nAnd that they control it from, from the very beginning of the &#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Sasha Latypova:<br \/>\nYes. That\u2019s why a lot of people ask me what is the proof that DOD controls it? How would you answer that question? What does need to exist to show people the proof? Well\u2014other than the documents that we\u2019re all pointing out to\u2014but really, how do they control this whole production?<\/p>\n<p>Katherine Watt:<br \/>\nI mean, I think they control it because they control the\u2014well, there\u2019s the things that you\u2019ve pointed out in the contract about that DOD has to be a participant on every single phone call, every single email, every single meeting that happens between Pfizer or its subcontractors or any of the pharmaceutical subcontractors and the FDA regulators. Which means that DOD is in there directly controlling the decisions that FDA makes and the announcements that FDA makes, and the material that FDA is allowed to review or not review. That plays into another piece of the puzzle that showed up through <a href=\"https:\/\/totalityofevidence.com\/brook-jackson-pfizer-whistleblower\/\">Brook Jackson\u2019s case<\/a>, which is under the law, the HHS secretary is supposed to make his or her decisions about EUA products, about medical countermeasures, about security countermeasures, all these terms they came up with, which basically just mean bioweapons. But <a href=\"https:\/\/bailiwicknews.substack.com\/p\/congress-appropriated-billions-more\">bioweapons packaged so that they look like medicine<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>They\u2019re supposed to make it on the basis of scientific data and evidence, \u201cif available\u201d. And that <i>if available<\/i> is very, very important because the DOD was in a position to make sure that no valid data would ever be made available to the FDA regulators. And to ensure that even without it, they would produce the authorizations and the approvals that the DOD required under the terms of the contract with Pfizer in order to go ahead with the manufacturing and the contracts and the hundreds of millions of dollars that they funneled to these companies. So the availability of data is a key part of how DOD controls not just the product itself, but also the information available to the regulators and to the HHS secretary. I don\u2019t think that gets them off the hook morally because I think that the FDA and HHS officials were willing and knowing participants in it. And I think that can be shown. But it does explain the mechanism by which it was done\u2014is done.<\/p>\n<p>Sasha Latypova:<br \/>\nSo yes. We need to spend a little more time on this. So the decision to\u2014what is it legally called? Is it authorization, licensing or is it just deployment of the countermeasures?\u2014is up to the sole authority of HHS secretary who under Trump was Alex Azar, and now it\u2019s Xavier Becerra. So those two individuals, sequentially, made decisions about deployment of these counter measures, prototypes, bioweapons, to the American public and the world. And that decision was based on available data, <i>if available<\/i>.<\/p>\n<p>Katherine Watt:<br \/>\nYes. It was based on available data about the products. And it was also based on available data about the known and potential risks of the actual thing that they were deploying the product against. So they got to decide, unilaterally, basically as dictators, what is the level of threat that this SARS-CoV-2 poses to the population, and what are the acceptable risks and benefits calculations of the countermeasure deployed against that first SARS-CoV-2 thing. It was, it is multilayered.<\/p>\n<p>Sasha Latypova:<br \/>\nThe enormity of this, I just, I can\u2019t emphasize enough, is one person, Alex Azar or Xavier Becerra, decides for 300 million people in the United States, unilaterally, how much threat Covid poses to them today and in the future.<\/p>\n<p>Katherine Watt:<br \/>\nYep.<\/p>\n<p>Sasha Latypova:<br \/>\nAnd how safe, efficacious this product is for them, specifically individual and for their children, their babies, their elderly, now and in the future.<\/p>\n<p>Katherine Watt:<br \/>\nYes.<\/p>\n<p>Sasha Latypova:<br \/>\nHow insane that is, it just blows my mind. But it is written in the U.S. law,<\/p>\n<p>Katherine Watt:<br \/>\nRight. It\u2019s massive and it\u2019s very hard to wrap your head around how massive it is.<\/p>\n<p>Sasha Latypova:<br \/>\nYes. And I will put citations that Katherine provided under this video as well, so that people can check for themselves and read that language that we just cited. Another question I had, before we go into the information management of this. Let\u2019s just play back the scenario. Alex Azar is HHS. This thing starts unfolding. They\u2019re claiming it\u2019s super lethal, next plague. Okay. He decides\u2014somebody shoves these things in front of him and says they\u2019re okay. Pfizer said so. FDA said so. DOD says so. He thinks, Okay, they may be effective and so let\u2019s deploy them.<\/p>\n<p>Katherine Watt:<br \/>\nYep.<\/p>\n<p>Sasha Latypova:<br \/>\nBut that\u2019s early, let\u2019s say early 2020. Now, two years later, we have two years worth of data on both the transmission, local transmission of Covid, which is near zero everywhere.<\/p>\n<p>Katherine Watt:<br \/>\nEffective other treatments is another thing.<\/p>\n<p>Sasha Latypova:<br \/>\nEffective other treatments. The deadliness of the injections. There\u2019s a lot of adverse events. And now they\u2019re even admitting officially myocarditis is a thing. A bunch of states such as Florida said that we\u2019re not going to recommend it to children. Is this the available information that now Xavier Becerra has to take into account? Or is it just, he can pretend he never heard these things?<\/p>\n<p>Katherine Watt:<br \/>\nI think he can pretend he never heard these things. He can definitely pretend he never heard these things because he\u2019s been pretending that for two years now. And that\u2019s where it gets into the amazing structural features Congress built into these things where Congress not only put all the power into the HHS secretary\u2019s hand. They also eliminated their own oversight power. They eliminated, or they claimed to\u2014this is written in the laws\u2014they claimed that they have no power to overrule or review his emergency declarations about their existing emergency. They can\u2019t overrule his EUA declarations. They also put provisions that no federal judge can review those declarations. Once they\u2019re made, they\u2019re considered solely within agency discretion. So there\u2019s no judicial review and eliminated states power to take any course of action different from what the HHS secretary has said that they should do, which is called preemption.<\/p>\n<p>There\u2019s sections in these laws\u2014I have it in my head, but I can\u2019t think of the name of it\u2014that make it so that there is no state authority to overrule HHS secretary, there is no congressional authority to overrule HHS secretary, and there is no judicial authority. And Congress did that. Which raises the interesting, super interesting philosophical question of\u2014with horrible implications\u2014how did they give away a power that they didn\u2019t have the power to give away? Congress does not have the power to dissolve itself. Congress does not have the power to dissolve the federal judiciary under the U.S. Constitution. But they did it to the extent that the federal judges are deferring to them. And Congress is deferring to the HHS secretary. And the states, for the most part, with exceptions like Florida, are deferring and not challenging these things. They\u2019re just saying, Whoop, that happened.<\/p>\n<p>Sasha Latypova:<br \/>\nI guess, well, you know, you gave our power away,<\/p>\n<p>Katherine Watt:<br \/>\nI guess the Constitution\u2019s gone now, so whatever.<\/p>\n<p>Sasha Latypova:<br \/>\nSo whatever. We\u2019ll just continue collecting pensions and have a nice life and, hope it will blow over. Right?<\/p>\n<p>Katherine Watt:<br \/>\nI don\u2019t know if they hope it\u2019ll blow over. I think they\u2019re planning to make it more of them doing less and more of\u2014I mean, because I think their goal is to turn it all over to the World Health Organization and [unintelligible] and stuff. That\u2019s the game that they\u2019re playing, but if they never had\u2014you can\u2019t give away a power that wasn\u2019t yours to give away to begin with. And the power in our country is supposed to be in the Constitution, the supreme law of the land. There\u2019s supposed to be nobody that\u2019s above it. So to have Congress say, Well, you know, never mind, is just super bizarre.<\/p>\n<p>Sasha Latypova:<br \/>\nIt\u2019s absolutely, it\u2019s absolutely incredible. And I hope more people see this and understand what\u2019s happened. But before we go into, what\u2019s the next steps, this just puts into perspective all the information warfare that was associated with this. Because again, the key thing is available information <i>if available<\/i> to one person.<\/p>\n<p>Katherine Watt:<br \/>\nAnd if that person doesn\u2019t wanna look at it, it\u2019s not available to him.<\/p>\n<p>Sasha Latypova:<br \/>\nYes. If the person doesn\u2019t want to look at it\u2014but at least somebody can challenge this was available through HHS. That\u2019s why I\u2019ve seen a lot of\u2014I\u2019ve read now a lot of web productions including emails of FDA officials, including emails between CDC and now we also know about the White House was colluding with the tech platforms. In fact internally, while this was going on, I had a bet with my husband because I come from the Soviet Union. So I saw how\u2014and this was even before the pandemic\u2014I saw how quickly somebody would be would be banned from all platforms simultaneously, Facebook and Twitter and everything. And I kept telling him there is a Central Committee. Because, that\u2019s where I\u2019m coming from.<\/p>\n<p>Katherine Watt:<br \/>\n(Laughter) You\u2019re like, I\u2019ve seen this movie. Yes.<\/p>\n<p>Sasha Latypova:<br \/>\nAnd he was like, No, no. They just make phone calls to each other. These are companies, they\u2019re private companies, they\u2019re, they just\u2014sometimes they coordinate this stuff and I\u2019m like, No, no, there\u2019s this. And lo and behold, theres<\/p>\n<p>Katherine Watt:<br \/>\nThere\u2019s sure enough, there it is.<\/p>\n<p>Sasha Latypova:<br \/>\nBut my point is that they\u2019re actively\u2014all these emails, when I see them between the FDA officials, they are actively trying to prevent any information that contradicts this statement that Covid is the plague. It\u2019s going to kill billions of people and we need these poorly designed, hastily made products on the market to prevent it. So whatever subverts that narrative, they\u2019re desperately managing fires to suppress that. And that becomes very, very obvious in these productions.<\/p>\n<p>Katherine Watt:<br \/>\nYes. I was just thinking this morning, because there are so many fronts on the war. I think the information one is the very, very, very primary one because they need absolute control of the information to maintain the fear levels at the levels the fear has to be at, to maintain all the other controls. As soon as people have information about who is doing what and what it is that they\u2019re doing, they get less afraid because they understand it as like, Oh, we\u2019re just being attacked. That\u2019s what this is. Instead of the confusion and disorientation and social disconnection that they\u2019ve been pulling off for a couple years. So yes, the information part is, the top of the control pyramid in my view. And then they have that reinforced with all of these other things with the regulations and keeping the checks and balances and separation of powers from actually functioning. But to make all of that work, they have to keep everybody afraid and to make everybody afraid, they have to keep control of the information.<\/p>\n<p>Sasha Latypova:<br \/>\nYes. But it\u2019s not working very well for them, is it? I think because the alternative media expanded and people became fed up and after you\u2019ve been lied to for a while, it becomes obvious and so people become fed up. And I think the message is spread because we see the steep drop off in the vaccinations and very low uptake in the new boosters and things of that nature. So I think as far as people becoming aware of their being lied to, that\u2019s a good trend. I think we need to, obviously, explain more how the problem is being committed.<\/p>\n<p>And another question I had is let\u2019s come back a little bit to the clinical trials, documentations, manufacturing documentation, any documentation that so far has been produced through FOIA. I know some firms have been very successful in doing that, like Aaron Siri\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/icandecide.org\/\">ICAN<\/a>. They\u2019ve produced a lot of materials and especially the <a href=\"https:\/\/phmpt.org\/pfizers-documents\/\">Pfizer clinical trial documents<\/a> that I have been reviewing with a number of colleagues myself. How do we think about it? If they never had to produce them or produce them to quality of the clinical trial\u2014if it\u2019s not even a clinical trial, what do we think of them as?<\/p>\n<p>Katherine Watt:<br \/>\nI think of them as a performance art. They had to do them only insofar as they had to make people believe that real ones were happening. And they only had to make people believe that\u2014if they had been as successful as they wanted to be, they would\u2019ve done this short, sharp, panic campaign, which is what they did in early 2020. They would\u2019ve done these clinical trials in the shoddy, fraudulent way that they did them. But a lot of the people I think, like at the level of Brook Jackson and down, did not know that what they were participating in was fake. They actually were getting injections. They actually were having symptoms or not having symptoms. They actually were reporting some of them to the clinical trial sites. The clinical trial sites were actually reporting some of the things that happened to the collection like the sponsors. Because they needed to maintain that part of the fraud too.<\/p>\n<p>If people had known very early on, Well, there\u2019s not really clinical trials at all, then many more people would not have taken it. The problem for them is that a lot of people didn\u2019t take it anyway, because a lot of people thought\u2014first of all, people figured out, some of them, that the actual underlying SARS-CoV-2 was not as big of a threat as what they wanted everybody to believe. A lot of people had it or what they believed it was. And then they were like, I have natural immunity. So then they had to knock down, Well there is no such thing as natural immunity anymore. There\u2019s no such thing as herd immunity anymore. A vaccine doesn\u2019t have to prevent you from getting something anymore. They had to change all of these definitions and keep the thing going.<\/p>\n<p>And the longer they tried to do that, the more evidence came out through like you said these other alternative media channels or people just knowing people who got sicker after they took it or whatever. But yeah, I think the whole point of it that, and I don\u2019t\u2014I say that partially because that\u2019s how I understand the framework, but also I do think there\u2019s useful data in those things. It\u2019s just not complete. It\u2019s not up to the standards that it would need to be, to actually like, you know far better than I do. It doesn\u2019t meet any of the things that a normal pharmaceutical regulatory process would have done. But it still is data. And that\u2019s why people like <a href=\"https:\/\/dailyclout.io\/meet-our-incredible-staff\/\">Naomi Wolf<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/AaronSiriSG\">Aaron Siri<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/thehighwire.com\/watch\/\">Del Bigtree<\/a> are able to have these crowdsourced analysis of the data and come up with information about what these things cause. Which then helps other people try to reverse engineer what\u2019s actually in them to be causing this enormous range of neurological and reproductive and respiratory [injury] and all of the things that the injections cause. But yeah, the overarching purpose of them was to make it look like a valid pharmaceutical regulatory process had taken place when it had not.<\/p>\n<p>Sasha Latypova:<br \/>\nBy law, do they have an obligation to people to disclose, if you are issuing authorization for emergency use of the product, and you are issuing it under this Other Transaction Authority, under Public Health Emergency, where it\u2019s a declaration by Alex Azar, do they have legal obligation to tell people that? Or is it okay under the law to lie and pretend that clinical trials are required for this?<\/p>\n<p>Katherine Watt:<br \/>\nI think that they\u2019ve set it up so that it\u2019s okay because they\u2019ve split them apart. They\u2019ve split it apart as this is a prototype, this is not a clinical trial. And then they said in the contracts, the clinical trials are actually being done by\u2014they\u2019re not taxpayer funded\u2014they\u2019re done by Pfizer itself as the sponsor. I don\u2019t know where\u2014I think there are other contracts that would cover that. I have not seen them.<\/p>\n<p>Sasha Latypova:<br \/>\nI haven\u2019t seen them either. I don\u2019t think they actually exist from the government.<\/p>\n<p>Katherine Watt:<br \/>\nI don\u2019t think they actually exist from the government either. And I don\u2019t know where they would exist. But I don\u2019t think they have\u2014because they folded it under the EUA, because they folded it under the Other Transaction Authority, I don\u2019t think they have any obligation to do anything as far as\u2014<\/p>\n<p>Sasha Latypova:<br \/>\nExactly. So now that you said that it became even clearer in my head that I\u2019ve seen those contracts and it was very puzzling\u2014I\u2019ve seen the DOD contracts\u2014and it was a very puzzling way that they have carved out the clinical trial and anything that has to do with regulatory process from the money that was being paid, ostensibly for the large scale demonstration. And now it makes full sense because, literally they\u2019re saying this clinical trial stuff and regulatory theater, this is a voluntary activity by Pfizer and FDA. They\u2019re just playing, play acting together because they feel like it.<\/p>\n<p>Katherine Watt:<br \/>\nYes.<\/p>\n<p>Sasha Latypova:<br \/>\n[What] we\u2019re paying for is this other thing: other transactional authority, prototype, military prototype. So I think that that\u2019s how they actually separated it. So that now these guys are performing theater here. But you\u2019re correct. This data, the data that that\u2019s been produced, is extremely important and valuable and we\u2019ve been able to get at this fraud through these productions. So that\u2019s extremely important for all of us.<\/p>\n<p>Katherine Watt:<br \/>\nRight. And also important, I think we touched on it, but you were asking about how do we know <a href=\"https:\/\/bailiwicknews.substack.com\/p\/parallel-statutory-and-international\">it\u2019s a bioweapon<\/a>? How do we know DOD has complete control? Part of it is the fact that the people who have been able to actually get the vials either before injection or after, just using the residue, had to smuggle them from the chain of custody. Because like you said, you talked about some of the documents that <a href=\"https:\/\/www.covidlawcast.com\/p\/covid-injections-a-dod-prototype\">Warner Mendenhall found<\/a>, and other people, where it shows it\u2019s considered a federal theft if you divert the product anywhere in the chain of custody before it goes into the person\u2019s arm. And the fact that those diversions have happened anyway, they also have produced important data about what\u2019s in them, which you\u2019ve written about like way more than I have.<\/p>\n<p>Sasha Latypova:<br \/>\nYes. The the contract that Warner was mentioning, that\u2019s the contract between CDC and the vaccination centers. It\u2019s actually\u2014people can read it that specifies this whole language about federal property until it\u2019s injected. Oh\u2014and this whole diversion language. Which I found ridiculous. I think ostensibly they wrote it because, Oh my god, these are in such short supply we need to vaccinate, as you said, they needed this blitz as fast as possible. Inject everyone because because people will realize sooner or later they\u2019re being lied to. And so they were, Okay, they\u2019re in such a short supply, you cannot divert them because every little vial counts. But here we are, couple years later, there are hundreds of millions of unused vials, hundreds of millions. So there\u2019s no shortage of them.<\/p>\n<p>And by the way, anything approved for market, formally approved by the FDA for market, and they come in fully approved, is\u2014I worked in clinical trials. You can order it through licensed provider and do experiments with it, do studies with it as a third party independent researcher. It\u2019s totally valid and okay. And everybody does it for competitive reasons and other things. So that was always positive. When I told my colleagues about it, they were like, What? No, we do this all the time but with approved products we do research. And I said, No, you can\u2019t. This is a federal property.<\/p>\n<p>Katherine Watt:<br \/>\nAnd also the internet\u2014two things about that. One is, you also have written about, and I have written about the international contracts, which specifically put in there that no third party independent testing of the contents can be done. But the bigger picture of the combination of the adverse effect from the fraudulent trial that are helping people understand somewhat of what\u2019s in them and the analysis of the smuggled vials before injection, which is also helping people figure out, gets to your bigger point that you make all the time, that nothing in the vials corresponds to what\u2019s on the label. So we actually have literally no idea what is in any of these things. The only way we can get back to and reverse engineer and find out is by looking at how does it damage people and what does it, what are the properties of it when you look at it under a microscope or whatever&#8230;. That\u2019s such a big aspect of the thing that people think that they know what they\u2019ve taken and they actually don\u2019t even know what they\u2019ve taken.<\/p>\n<p>Sasha Latypova:<br \/>\nNo. Nobody knows what they\u2019ve taken. Also, I try to caution my colleagues who are taking, as you know, face value, what\u2019s written in, let\u2019s say scientific journal about mRNA injections. They assume that it\u2019s produced as it\u2019s described in scientific literature. It couldn\u2019t be farther from the truth. Then they make all kinds of assumptions. Oftentimes they\u2019re very, very well-written papers and very thoroughly researched if you assume that this is the product. Right. But what we\u2019re finding in reality\u2014<\/p>\n<p>Katherine Watt:<br \/>\n\u2014You can\u2019t make that assumption.<\/p>\n<p>Sasha Latypova:<br \/>\nIt\u2019s a huge problem because I also work with networks of physicians who are trying to understand how to treat patients and without understanding what they got injured by, we can\u2019t really figure out how to treat them properly. I mean, we know certain things. We know that for the most part, it\u2019s poisoning of the blood and there\u2019s particular characteristics that are exhibited in the blood. But that\u2019s also the more convenient way to test people without huge equipment and expensive labs and so on versus a blood draw, right. That\u2019s all we can do so far and try to manage symptoms with various trial and error of simple programs and generic products. But that\u2019s nowhere near where this needs to be. We need full disclosure. We need full understanding of what\u2019s in those vials, who got injured by what, so that we can properly treat the vaccine injured.<\/p>\n<p>Katherine Watt:<br \/>\nWhich is made even more complicated by the fact that it probably wasn\u2019t the same stuff in each of the vials. And it goes back to the part where I think, I don\u2019t know if it was CDC or FDA or who, but somewhere in the U.S. government shortly after the rollout said you should not do antibody testing of people who have taken the shots, because that\u2019s not going to show you anything that would be useful to know. And maybe they even put a financial thing, like we will not cover tests. But that, I think that helps reinforce the point that they didn\u2019t want people to be able to do pre and post -injections of their own blood work to see what was in their blood before and what was in their blood after.<\/p>\n<p>Sasha Latypova:<br \/>\nYes. And there are only a handful of studies that I\u2019ve seen where it just happened that there was a big Italian study, it just happened so that the person was going to the clinic for blood work.<\/p>\n<p>Katherine Watt:<br \/>\nYes. I saw that.<\/p>\n<p>Sasha Latypova:<br \/>\nAnd there\u2019s only literally like four or five people\u2014<\/p>\n<p>Katherine Watt:<br \/>\nI know, right, yeah. Where they have the pre and post and they can look at them together and be like, Oh, okay,<\/p>\n<p>Sasha Latypova:<br \/>\nUh huh. Yes. But yes, those, those changes are quite characteristic that we\u2019re finding and there\u2019s a lot of research going on there. I will be speaking more about it in the coming days, but yeah. So before we leave off, I just wanted to find\u2014do you have any recommendations for people who are trying to prosecute cases or trying to complain about their vaccine injury or mistreatment or mandates? Do you have any recommendations today?<\/p>\n<p>Katherine Watt:<br \/>\nYeah, we have put together, it\u2019s still under construction, but there are useful things there called Five Small Stones, five with the number five, and then the word small stones.com.<\/p>\n<div>[There are now two sites: <a href=\"https:\/\/5smallstones.com\/\">5smallstones.com<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/5smallstones.wordpress.com\/\">5smallstones.wordpress.com<\/a>. See Katherine Watt\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/bailiwicknews.substack.com\/p\/five-small-stones-campaign-updates\">Five Small Stones Campaign Updates<\/a>, 8 Nov 2022.]<\/div>\n<p>It\u2019s an allusion to the David and Goliath bible passage about a relatively smaller weaker force using faith in God and five small stones to take out a much larger opponent. So the idea is that millions, hundreds of thousands of people, as many as possible, could be filing all kinds of self filed things because there are not enough attorneys to handle the amount of damage, death, and injury that has been done and is still being done. So we have some sort of one and done things where it\u2019s like <a href=\"https:\/\/5smallstones.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Notice-of-War-Crimes-Complicity-local-state-officials-18-USC-2441.pdf\">a notice to a school district or a local government office or a business owner or whoever<\/a>, that what they\u2019re doing by enforcing any of these things is participating in war crimes and putting them on notice that you know that what they\u2019re doing is a war crime and that you want them to know that you know and that you are going to continue pursuing this as the months go on.There\u2019s another one that\u2019s an <a href=\"https:\/\/5smallstones.com\/write-a-letter\/\">Affidavit of Noncompliance<\/a>, which you can take to a county courthouse and file a new civil case called a civil miscellaneous case. It basically puts something into the judicial record that says, I understand what\u2019s happening and I am not complying with it. The idea there is partly just to get it in the public record, partly to get people thinking through, Where is my line? What is it going to take for me to decide that I\u2019m not going to cross the line anymore? But partly to get it closer to the prosecutors at the county level and the sheriffs at the county level who have been completely AWOL. There\u2019s massive, massive crimes going on everywhere and they\u2019re just ignoring it for whatever reason. Probably because they\u2019re afraid. But letting them know that there is a growing number of regular people who understand what\u2019s going on and want them to take action is a useful thing to do.<\/p>\n<p>Then there\u2019s some other more complicated templates there about medical malpractice and wrongful death to file at the state level. We\u2019re working on adding to that collection. Then the highest level of complexity are the federal cases that I write about mostly at my website which get at the biggest crimes of treason and sedition and genocide. So there\u2019s a bunch of different cases in the development stage right now on those. And I keep posting about them as they, as they unfold.<\/p>\n<p>Sasha Latypova:<br \/>\nWow. This is a lot of material. I will link the site <a href=\"https:\/\/5smallstones.com\/\">Five Small Stones<\/a>. This is a self-help resource so you can file these complaints and try to communicate with your local county persons.<\/p>\n<p>Katherine Watt:<br \/>\nEverybody.<\/p>\n<p>Sasha Latypova:<br \/>\nEverybody. It takes all of us to push back on this and exactly too, because\u2014<\/p>\n<p>Katherine Watt:<br \/>\nAnd it gets back to the information piece being the primary battle front that there is because that\u2019s the place where the fear meets the population at the information thing. So the more people are putting out information that reduces fear, the better.<\/p>\n<p>Sasha Latypova:<br \/>\nYeah. Well, thank you. Thank you very much, Katherine. Thank you for all your work. As one of our colleagues said, doing the most important legal work in the country today.<\/p>\n<p>Katherine Watt:<br \/>\nThank you.<\/p>\n<p>Sasha Latypova:<br \/>\nSo yeah, this is definitely worthwhile to go and read about and I\u2019ll post a bunch of links. So this will be on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.trialsitenews.com\/p\/latypova?tab=published\"><i>Trial Site News<\/i><\/a>, but I will also post it on my channel and hopefully we\u2019ll speak again and I\u2019ll have another interview with you in the future.<\/p>\n<p>Katherine Watt:<br \/>\nSounds good. Thank you. 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