WOW!!! Now that the Khazarian-directed Moscow police department completely covered up the Idaho murders, citizen sleuths have cracked the case. Was this senseless crime purposely perpetrated in Moscow, ID as a subliminal programming psyop?

Submitted by Citizen Investigator GA

Since clearly the police are dropping the ball with this case, I think it is nice to see American Citizens working on this of 4 students murdered at Univ of Idaho, on Nov 13, 2022:
 
In summary, the guy who was stalking these girls, and seen on videos stalking them just hours before the girls were murdered, immediately took off to So. Africa, after his parents lied for him and said he was home all night.  He was not home, he was seen in the video at the food truck.
 
But stalker’s parents are rich, which probably means they are jewish (a lot of rich jews in So. Africa working the diamond mines).  Jews control the jewel business (“jew”-el), especially the diamond business.  So that is what we are dealing with here.  They have probably gotten his name changed, and hidden in a nonextradition country by now.
 
 
 
https://www.state.gov/13060  <<<the USA does have an extradition Treaty with So. Africa
 
Police are trying very hard to cover up for this stalker, who has definitely behaved suspiciously, especially immediately vacating the USA after he murdered these 4 students.  The two girls Kaylee and Maddie were seen at a Food Truck just before they went home, and the stalker was there in plain view the whole time, and he never bought any food.  Stalker lived right behind their house, and came in through the sliding glass doors.  The two girls on the 3rd floor were the target.  Kaylee kept dialing her x-boyfriend over and over again at 2:30am, obviously trying to get help…..while attacker stabbed maddie.  The commotion woke up Ethan and his girlfriend on the 2nd floor who came to their aid.  Ethan had defensive wounds on him showing he was in a fight with the murderer.  Some how the girls on the first floor didn’t wake up, probably drunk from the party they went to that night too.  Its harder to arouse a drunk person who has “passed out” from alcohol, and probably some marijuana too.
 
So police have either been paid off to look the other way and botch this case, or the police are doing this because they have been told to by their superiors who are no doubt Free Masons.  Free Masons take an OATH to cover up each other’s crimes, and if they dare to violate their oaths, they turn up dead themselves.  Once a Mason, always a Mason….there is no out clause.  To achieve the rank of a 33 degree mason, you have taken an oath to cover up a brother’s murder.  The jews set up the Free Masons deliberately to undermine our country’s whole legal/justice system.  This is what you are watching happen right now before your eyes.
 
This plot to undermine our legal and justice system is all carefully laid out in the following booklet:
 
See the analyses below:
 

University of Idaho Murder Victim’s Father Says His Daughter Had Different Injuries Than the Other Victims (VIDEO)

December 5, 2022, 9:10pmby Cristina Laila316 Comments

Other facts about this murder mystery:
  • The 911 call came in nearly 9 hours after the murders from a cell phone of one of the surviving housemate’s, however police have not revealed who made the call.
  • According to reports, Moscow police have received hundreds of tips from people claiming Kaylee Goncalves had a stalker, but the information has not been verified yet.
  • It was also revealed that Kaylee Goncalves called her ex-boyfriend several times between 2:30 am and 3:00 am just before the murders.
  • A dog was found alive and unharmed at the crime scene on the morning the four murdered students were discovered by a housemate inside the home.
  • It is unclear if the dog was barking or not.
  • A sixth roommate was listed on the lease at the Moscow home; police do not believe this person was involved in the quadruple murder.
  • Police believe it was a “targeted” attack
  • According to the autopsies there is no sign of sexual assault
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According to the police, the killer entered through the back sliding glass door went upstairs and killed Kaylee and Maddie (wounds to Kaylee were much more severe). Then he came downstairs and killed Ethan and Xana. Ethan was out of bed at this point.
So, the targets were the girls upstairs, specifically Kaylee who was moving to Texas in the morning. The killer knew this was her last night and that’s why he did everything he could to get to her that night.
Knowing that Kaylee was the target, I would say the prime suspect is Jack (John) Showaltar, the food truck hoodie guy. who was stalking Kaylee all night. (Jack Showaltar is not the same as the ex-boyfriend Jack Docoeur)
Jack Showaltar lived at 500 Queen rd, directly behind the crime scene. He knew that this was Kaylee’s last night in town, had been in the house and knew the layout of the house. He is a hunter and had several knives that fit the description of the murder weapon. He had an alter ego he went by whenever he was drunk, he called himself Terry. And he was kicked out of his frat earlier in the year.
On the night of the murders, he was at the Corner club (bar) where Kaylee and Maddie were, but got kicked out for creeping out some girls there.
He then followed Kaylee and Maddie to the food truck.
In the video you can see Kaylee trying to ignore him and him trying to get in her way. Then he notices the camera and pulls up his hoodie to hide his face.
Then you can see Kaylee trying to get a picture of him (a selfie), like you would if you suspect someone is up to no good and you want to be able to show the police if he does do something.
You can also hear Kaylee say “F*** you” and point to him.
Then the girls leave without telling him as if they are trying to get away.
Jack Showaltar then leaves without ordering or receiving any food himself, showing that his only purpose for being there was to stalk these girls that wanted nothing to do with him.
His alibi is his parents saying he was with them that night, but we know he was following these girls until just after 1:30 am. His parents are incredibly rich (jewish?) and Jack and his parents move back to south Africa immediately after they provided this alibi to the police. He never provided his DNA to the police.
I think the police know who the killer is but are trying to make it sound like they have no clue so they can get him to drop his guard and return to the US. In the meantime, they are gathering evidence in hopes they can get enough to extradite him.
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A lot of the reporting is mixed up on a lot of points, but from everything I have read Kaylee broke up with her ex-boyfriend Jack Docoeur two weeks before, bought a new car and was only still in town to show off her car to Maddie and have one last night of fun. This is why both girls were sharing Maddie’s bed, Kaylee’s bed didn’t even have sheets on it.
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Sad that even knowing she was being stalked, Kaylee and her house mates didn’t make sure the sliding glass door was blocked.
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Kevin O’Neill ComradeAdam • 5 hours ago

Hi. I just wanted to thank you for this post. You’ve done great work. As a retired uk cop I know how these things work and its clear this case is being ‘thrown’. Whilst I realise justice will never be done here, it’s satisfying to know what happened. Many thanks again.

Madison & Kaylee Food Truck 10 min Video | University of Idaho Quadruple murder

 
 

Zoomed in Food Truck Video Madison & Kaylee | things I noticed Idaho Quadruple murders  <<<Maddie looked like she was texting someone intently, in a dialogue, possibly talking about the stalker.  Perhaps friend on phone told her to take a selfie of the hoodie guy stalking them, which she did.  The girls pointed to him several times.  Hoodie guy never got any food, and left when they left, but he left in a different direction.  Hoodie guy Definitely stalking them.

 

Release: ‘Private party’ drove Kaylee and Madison home | Banfield   <<<Maddie was probably texting someone and asking for a ride home, as they were afraid of their stalker.

 
 
 

Kaylee and Maddie ride home conflicting reports

Whoever picked them up from the food truck arrives at around 3:49:55 in the twitch feed which you can see in the reflection of the window. They sit waiting til 3:54:00-ish when Kaylee and Maddie get in the car. From the tail lights and reflection it does appear that the vehicle is a mustang– all of this has been discussed. But what is confusing is that Kaylees mom and sister said they know for a fact that Kaylee ordered an Uber (from phone records and the passwords they have) and that they arrived safely at home from ring camera footage but the police clearly state that a private driver took them home? Does anyone have any info to point to that would weigh in one direction more than the other? — to be clear the time code is from the Twitch feed and is not the actual time of night.
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Timeline of the University of Idaho student murders

 

Idaho victim’s parents cryptically claim ‘means of death’ between two of the students ‘don’t match’ – despite cops saying all four were stabbed – and then say Idaho cops ruled out certain people ‘very fast’


More: Father Knew There was a Stalker…Re: More Incriminating info…Re: Citizens Solving the Idaho Murders

Just found these comments from another article:
so Kaylee’s father was asked in an interview if Kaylee ever said anything about a stalker, her father replied that she did talk about a stalker,,,, to me if my daughter was away from home and told me that she feels she is being stalked i would be asking questions like what makes you feel he is stalking you? is he a student? what does he look like? what is his age you think he is at? what is his name if he is a student? if he is at a parties you attend ask if someone knows his name, do you know what he drives?. as a parent i would be concerned because she felt the need to bring it up in a daughter and father talk so she must have been thinking about it or concerned about it,,,,,,,,,, she had to have talked to others about this and they need to contact the police
So, the roommates thought the one person had just passed out. Wonder how many stab wounds and blood was present? How many others did they invite over to contaminate the crime scene?   <<<My comment.  Good point.  How could they think the person was just “passed out”, when he must have been lying in a big pool of blood???
 
Logic would dictate that you immediately dial 911 if you see a friend lying in a pool of blood……not call your friends.
 
And It still bothers me that the dog did not bark.  Why???  And why was the dog unharmed?  Dogs will attack when they see a loved one attacked.  The dog must have known the attacker, and thus did not bark.  Then the attacker locked the dog outside or into a closet or something.  Couldn’t have been a closet as that would caused the dog to bark after just a few minutes, but he could have let the dog out, who would have gone off on a sniffing adventure.
 
So there are a couple things not right about this story, by the 2 room mates who survived this massacre unharmed, and their sleep not even disturbed:
1) they did not hear 4 people being stabbed to death in the next room,
2) the dog did not bark,
3) the dog was unharmed,
4) why didn’t they immediately dial 911 when they saw their friend unresponsive lying in a pool of blood??
 
 
There is also the issue the Mother of the gal on the 2nd floor who was killed, being caught and ARRESTED for selling/dealing Meth 6 days after her daughter was murdered??
something is not right about “The two roommates who were unharmed in the attack woke up later in the morning on Nov. 13 and “summoned” friends because “they believed one of the second-floor victims had passed out and was not waking up” makes no sense at all.
I think the two roommates know more than what they’re sharing or not sharing
The Cops have made so many mistakes in handling this case like having different Photographers going in and out of that residence taking Thousands of Photographs and contaminating the Crime Scene!
And let us not forget they said right away there was no threat to the community, a Homicidal Maniac running loose, No clue as to who it is, But is no threat to the community, Then reality set into the Police and they changed their minds and said to be “vigilant” because there was a possible threat!
I pray the FBI will find the Killer/Killers soon…  <<<probably under pressure by the school, where kids are being pulled out school by their parents.  I mean for one thing, if the police are this incompetent, the kids at that university are basically unprotected.
The police should check every credit card transaction in Moscow around the time of the murders. A gas station, hardware store, wally mart, or quick stop is going to turn up some unusual purchase or time. Or a persons name from out of town.
 
They will solve the case when someone walks in the police station confesses and provides physical evidence that they did commit the murders. If possible the murderer should include a powerpoint presentation to them with timelines, cellphone location and video would be great.
 
 
How can you not hear, screaming or struggling?
To even state that these murders were not “deliberate” is beyond insane. The killer knew the layout of this house quite well. They killed and navigated it quite well as they went up each floor to each bedroom in the dark. To say otherwise is complete b.s. This was someone that they knew, someone they had a run in with before, someone who was a regular visitor. There was a history between this killer and these kids, that cannot be argued. Who exactly? That remains to be seen.
  • someone’s getting stabbed they just not standing there. They’re screaming struggling so somebody heard something and they’re not talking

  • Moscow, Idaho police chief dismisses quadruple murders turning to cold case: ‘We’re going to solve this’
    Someday
  • You get ‘em Sherlock! I think even Columbo would have had this solved by now and Scooby and the gang for sure!
    CSI is fictional, welcome to the real world where things take time to be done correctly.
  • This police department couldn’t solve a puzzle with numbered pieces
  • These cops couldn’t catch a cold or solve a baby puzzle
  • To even state that these murders were not “deliberate” is beyond insane. The killer knew the layout of this house quite well. They killed and navigated it quite well as they went up each floor to each bedroom in the dark. To say otherwise is complete b.s. This was someone that they knew, someone they had a run in with before, someone who was a regular visitor. There was a history between this killer and these kids, that cannot be argued. Who exactly? That remains to be seen.
  • He stated that if the case is not solved, he will resign as Grand Wizard of the local klan.
  • Chief French Fry is in way over his head. No one outside of the Moscow Meatheads wants to be publicly involved because of how poorly the initial scene and investigation was conducted.
  • Ahh…the Barney Fifes of Moscow, Idaho.
  • Nothing else. Rhe target n0 target is so upsetting.
  • These officers are the guys you want to call, if you need a pizza cut into seven slices with a hunting knife.
  • Give them time,after all JFK’s murder still hasn’t been solved ,59 years ago,course all the cover-upers have since passed
  • You couldn’t solve this if there were bloody footprints leading back to that frat house!.. Which, let’s be honest, there probably were..
  • The fact that they waited almost 3 weeks to tow the cars shows how inept they are
  • I smell a set up
  • no you won’t. you were inept before, during and after this killing.

more info on this case:

 
 
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/12/idaho-murder-mystery-update-police-searching-white-hyundai-elantra/  <<<great.  police looking for a car, with no license plate number.  This is obviously designed to make it APPEAR that they are on the job, while they deliberately drop the ball. 
 
There should be an extradition case for Jack Showalter, who is most likely back in So. Africa where he came from.  His parents left the USA right after the murder too, giving up Medical Practices in order to flee.  <<<Police don’t see any problem with all this.  Do you???
 
OK, here is more info from this Comrade Adam guy, who has provided the most logical info to date.  I suspect he knows the father of one of the deceased victims, who in turn is getting some info from the FBI and/or police:


ComradeAdam Velvet Hammer ™️☑️🔒 • 14 hours ago • edited

Watch Jack Showalter’s social media then.
Knowing that Kaylee’s wounds were far more severe, means Kaylee was the likely target and no one comes even close to how suspicious Jack Showalter is because he was stalking her the whole night, knew it was her last night in town and never got to talk to her during the time he was stalking her that night.
Kicked out of his frat for anger issues, stories from past co-workers from a Boise pizzeria that he would blow up and call them the ‘dumbest itch he’s ever seen’ over the smallest things and wouldn’t calm down the entire shift.
Kicked out of the Corner Club (bar) for creeping out some girls on the night of the murders, then followed Kaylee and Maddie over to the food truck.
Stalked Kaylee the entire night of the murder, knowing it was Kaylee’s last night in town.
Went running after the girls on foot when they left the Food truck in a car, knowing they were headed home.
He also seemed to be upset that the girls took off in a car towards home and left him to walk.
His anger was escalating all night.
And his alibi was that after a night at the bar, he got in his car at 2 am and drove 5 hours to his parents’ house, who claimed to be awake and that he was with them.
Then he dropped out of college, his parents gave up their medical practices and they all moved back to South Africa within days of the murders. No DNA was submitted to cops.

ComradeAdam Mike365 • 12 hours ago • edited


If you are looking at the food truck video, Jack Showalter was the hoodie guy with no beard following Kaylee and Maddie around and standing behind them.
He’s wearing a brown jacket and a white hoodie underneath. When they first come into the view of the camera, He can be seen trying to walk in front of Kaylee’s path to get her attention. Kaylee ignores him and walks around him.
The girls approach the food truck and Jack gets closer behind them, then he notices the twitch camera and immediately turns around so his face can’t be seen, adjusts his hat then pulls up his hoodie over his head. He walks off a few steps, then turns and continues watching the girls from a distance.
He stands around for about 10 minutes waiting for Kaylee and Maddie to get their food without ordering anything himself.
Kaylee and Maddie ignore him the entire time, then a male pulls up in a car and they get into a car and leave.
Jack immediately takes off headed toward their homes.
Jack lives in the building directly behind these girls.
He obviously was mad they left him and wasn’t through with them when they left.
We know he had MAJOR anger issues and was stalking Kaylee.

ComradeAdam Katherine • an hour ago

The only evidence I have heard was used to clear him was that his very rich doctor parents vouched for him and said he drove five hours to their cabin that night and they were with him when he got there. Because we have never heard of parents that lie to cover for their kid’s crimes. (cough Brian Laundrie cough)
So, after a night drinking at the Corner Club bar and stalking Kaylee, he just decided he would stop stalking her on her last night in town and randomly drive out to his parents’ cabin.
They cleared him the week after the murders, in their first and second press conferences. This was before they collected any evidence or had time to verify his alibi. Phone records take a long time to get.
We have him on video until just after 1:50 am at the food truck. He was followed the girls all night trying to make contact despite the girls completely ignoring him, and the last time he was seen on camera was chasing after the girls on foot, he hadn’t given up yet. It’s about a 7-10 minute walk from the food truck to their house.
A few minutes later, when Jack Showalter’s alibi was that he got in his car and began a five-hour trip to his parents’ cabin,
at 2:15 am Kaylee and Maddie began calling Kaylee’s ex-boyfriend, Jack Ducoeur, until about 2:45 am.
Personally, I think they began calling him because the stalker Jack Showalter was making noises or was seen outside their house. And I think that after a while it got quiet so they went to sleep thinking he had gotten tired of stalking them. The murders happen somewhere after 3 am.

ComradeAdam Total1ty • 14 hours ago

Kaylee’s dad seems to think they are in Africa, he is being told things by the FBI and police that he isn’t supposed to reveal. When the police were asked, they did the whole cannot confirm or deny it routine. Jack Showalter’s social media have pictures of him on vacation since the murders in a place with dirt and lush greenery, which looks like south Africa. The exact location might be off, but since they have connections there it is the most likely location.

 

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ComradeAdam Sunshine • 13 hours ago

From what I read, they have the DNA from under the fingernails of the person/persons with defensive wounds, but they did not get a hit in their database, so he’s never been arrested before.   <<<My question: if this is true, why wouldn’t the police go to where stalker lived, which was directly behind the crime site, and gather DNA from stalker’s home???

Juliette Total1ty • 14 hours ago

I don’t know why the police don’t just ask the ex-boyfriend Jack, food truck Jack, and anyone else of interest for a volunteer DNA test like Jeremy Reagan provided? My gut tells me it was someone that they knew, that possibly knew the dog and the layout of the home. This is just my opinion and I am suspicious of both Jack’s but it doesn’t mean they did it. Perhaps they have already given the police their DNA. The police aren’t saying much which could be a good thing or a bad thing. I hope this gets solved.  <<<yes the dog not barking and waking everyone up bothers me.  Something off there.  Dogs know when someone is even approaching the home, and they also sense danger.

Juliette Total1ty • 15 hours ago

I said I “think” they knew their victims. It’s an opinion. Regarding the dog it was reported that the dogs didn’t bark according to neighbors. Of course I don’t know for certain.

jamtowzer M. Eli • 15 hours ago

I suspect that the killer came in from the dark area behind the building where security cameras at the house in question and the surrounding apartments do not cover (or exist). BTW, the house in built on a gradual slope, and the second floor’s slider is at ground level there.


Claire Chennault
I think you are correct that the wooded area behind the house was where the killer lay in wait, having identified for whatever reason the targets. Also, the neighbors said that these six people had blinds that they never closed, so the killer could easily have watched them, and waited till the optimum time to attack.

Fred_C_Dobbs • 6 hours ago

The investigators in this case must be the same ones who investigated the 2000 mules ballot box stuffing case. They both have a movie showing the perp doing it! The dude followed the victims to the food vendor location being videoed and pulled a hoodie over his head and fluffed up his jacket collar to go incognito at the moment he decided to follow the girls after they hugged some other guy while ignoring him. We were told this alleged perp has an alibi of being at a remote camp with his parents sleeping. Dude, you are on the video stalking horny drunk blondes at 2 AM, they ignored you, and then you followed them. What’s up with that? Reports are that the killer and his alibis left the country the next day or something to that effect. So now the donut shop police need to dodge criticism by chasing phantom leads.




Jedi Judy 🇺🇸🍻🇺🇸 Claire Chennault • 4 hours ago

Wasn’t it also reported that there was blood seeping from the house?

Claire Chennault Jedi Judy 🇺🇸🍻🇺🇸 • an hour ago • edited

That is correct. There are many photos, showing blood seeping on the outside exterior concrete foundation of the house, apparently from the bedroom where Ethan Chapin and Xana Kernodle had been killed.
I hate to be graphic, but when a body is breached, especially in a massive way like these knife attacks, a large amount of the roughly 4-6 quarts of blood in the average body floods out (women, around 3.5-5 quarts, men around 5-7 quarts, speaking of average-sized humans).
It also means, unless they attacker wore some type of a Home Depot-style exterior plastic painters suit, that he had to be covered with blood at the end of these attacks.
That is another thing I don’t understand. There had to be bloody footprints, handprints and tracks leading away from that house— unless they were obscured by all the people that showed up before the police arrived that Sunday about noon.

Patrick Cloutier • 8 hours ago

My impression of things is that the police were told by higher-ups to drop this investigation, but make it look like all leads were dead ends. They know who did this, but have been ordered to stand down. I hope I am proven wrong, but it would not be the first time that powerful people thwarted a law enforcement investigation
They know who did it, but let him get away, and now they chase phantom leads hoping the news will forget about it.

Bass Man • 8 hours ago

They know who the killer is. He returned to Africa with his parents after the murder. They were wealthy surgeons who abandoned their practices and homes and left the next day before thier travel could be revoked. He is in video stalking them and had a murder weapon matching the knife.

 

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Hey You Bass Man • 4 hours ago

And his parents were surgeon’s. He was probably pretty good with a knife.
His parents were surgeon’s. They cut people for a living. Apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.

What’sthetruth. Claire Chennault • 6 hours ago

When the police made their initial public comments about the murders they mentioned their was no threat to the public. But they did not explain if they had someone in custody or some sort of murder-suicide. Well, when they came to realize they didn’t know exactly who caused it and no one was in custody a day or so later, they had to backtrack their statements because it was being tremendously irresponsible to have a killer on the loose and not to inform the public. Plus their motivations were bad,, they would be worried that it would cause a panic at the school and disrupt the school year and parents pulling their kids out. Which happened anyway to some degree. They could have implemented other actions for the public’s help, this was hindered because of their words and misrepresentations..
 
 

Joan van JeB • 11 hours ago

All 4 as seen in their photos seemed to be a very close group. They were all the targets. The killer was enraged, could have been rejected at some point by the group at a social function. Since the story is at least 3 were asleep and could not identify killer, if he was just targeting one no reason to kill sleeping non-witnesses.
No, this killer had a rage reaction to all 4. History of explosive anger and drugs/alcohol.
 
 

jamtowzer Juliette • 12 hours ago

Do you really think that seasoned cops have not thought of that? Really?? Moscow PD is not the only agency on the case. Idaho State Patrol. Kootenai County Sheriffs. CdA PD. FBI. Whitman County Sheriffs. The University Police. Spokane County units. Cmon … use Occam’s Razor … the perp is not in any database and is probably young.
 

 

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Gatorbear2 • 17 hours ago

In other words, these cops have nothing.. I’m hoping for the luckiest break ever on this one because the keystone cops aren’t solving it and probably contaminated the crime scene so bad the state cops can’t help either and the fbi is too busy going after parents at school board meetings.
 
 


Claire Chennault • 8 hours ago

People need to be aware of the vicious early morning knife-attack/murder of Travis Juetten and near-murder of his wife in their beds Aug 13-14, 2021 in Salem OR: That too was an early morning knife-attack even though other people were present in the home. His wife survived but barely.
Also, Sandra Ladd of Washougal WA was brutally murdered in a knife attack June 13–14, 2020. No evidence of robbery as a motive in this case either.
Note that these attacks occurred around the 13th of the month (as with the Moscow ID murders), and about a year and two months apart. Both remain unsolved.
The sites of these other 2 murders are about 5 1/2 hours drive from Moscow Idaho
 

 

TheCatholicGirl . Claire Chennault • 8 hours ago

Wow. Very interesting. Did Travis’ wife report seeing anything?

 

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Claire Chennault TheCatholicGirl . • 7 hours ago • edited

I’ve wondered about that same thing, but I have read that she was badly hurt, and probably PTSD and sequestered from the public.
The other individual in the house who chased off the murderer must have gotten at least a glimpse of him; however, at present the Moscow, Idaho PD are claiming “they see no connection. “ That may be standard disinformation response.
The experienced homicide investigators who have interviewed convicted psychopathic murderers believe that this perpetrator is an experienced killer, it’s not his first time, and he has experience in killing with a military-style k-knife. He is likely trained ex-military (or could be a highly experienced hunter), and without being graphic, he knows how to quickly incapacitate and silence his victims.
 
 


Pelayo M. Eli • 16 hours ago • edited

I can believe that the girls on floor 1 didn’t hear anything. What I cannot believe is that 1 person was able to stab 4 people (including a relatively large guy) on 2 separate floors without a tremendous commotion. My theory is that this was more than one person and this is related somehow to Xana’s Mom being arrested on charges related to dealing meth 6 days after her daughter was killed. I bet she was arrested for her own protection.
 
 

 

CupOJoe • 17 hours ago

The guy who did this was covered in blood and drove away in an Elantra. Blood washes away easily but it gets everywhere.

 

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    Total1ty CupOJoe • 16 hours ago

    Blood does Not wash away easily and leaves behind protein markers that can last years. As well as dna. Bleach only masks blood stains.
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      CupOJoe Total1ty • 8 hours ago

      It depends on how long it’s there and what it’s on. A few droplets on concrete washed with water within a few minutes won’t leave anything. But getting into a car while covered in blood, there will always be something. You’re right though, it can still be there and not be visible.

 

Here is what happens if you TRY to bow out of these Secret Societies, like the Masons. 
 
Glenn Ford, no doubt stepped on a lot of jewish toes in making this film, but he wanted the truth to get out to Americans:

Glenn Ford! BROTHERHOOD OF THE BELL Full Movie Thriller!

Since clearly the police are dropping the ball with this case, I think it is nice to see American Citizens working on this of 4 students murdered at Univ of Idaho, on Nov 13, 2022:
 
In summary, the guy who was stalking these girls, and seen on videos stalking them just hours before the girls were murdered, immediately took off to So. Africa, after his parents lied for him and said he was home all night.  He was not home, he was seen in the video at the food truck.
 
But stalker’s parents are rich, which probably means they are jewish (a lot of rich jews in So. Africa working the diamond mines).  Jews control the jewel business (“jew”-el), especially the diamond business.  So that is what we are dealing with here.  They have probably gotten his name changed, and hidden in a nonextradition country by now.
 
 
 
https://www.state.gov/13060  <<<the USA does have an extradition Treaty with So. Africa
 
Police are trying very hard to cover up for this stalker, who has definitely behaved suspiciously, especially immediately vacating the USA after he murdered these 4 students.  The two girls Kaylee and Maddie were seen at a Food Truck just before they went home, and the stalker was there in plain view the whole time, and he never bought any food.  Stalker lived right behind their house, and came in through the sliding glass doors.  The two girls on the 3rd floor were the target.  Kaylee kept dialing her x-boyfriend over and over again at 2:30am, obviously trying to get hel

The Dog Was Let Out of House Before the Murders…Re: More: Father Knew There was a Stalker…Re: More Incriminating info…Re: Citizens Solving the Idaho Murders

 
Update, I just went back to this story about the Dog being unharmed.  There is more to it than that.  Turns out the Dog had been MIA, until the evening, long after the police arrived.  So no wonder the dog didn’t bark, he wasn’t inside the home.
 
So sounds like the killer let the dog out of the house.  The dog did not bark because he was familiar with the killer.  Or the dog could have been given drugged food, to cause him to pass out someplace outdoors.
The girl who was co-owner of the dog, Kaylee, was frantically calling Jack (the x-boyfriend), because he was co-owner of the dog too.  The reason Kaylee was calling him was because the Dog was MISSING, when they got home.
 
That means, someone pre-planned this murder, from earlier in the evening.  They had to go to the house and let the dog out of the house……maybe threw a hamburger some feet away from the house, to get the dog to leave the house, SO THAT he would not be there to BARK when the murder/attack was planned to happen.
 
So the murder was pre-planned, and murderer knew there was a dog to get rid of, but not by slaying the dog…..just getting it out of the way.
Easy to do, as everyone had left to go to parties or bars that evening, so the house would have been empty…..just the dog home alone.
 
So the x-boyfriend indeed sounds suspicious here.  Maybe he came and got the dog, and put the dog in his car?
 
When the two girls got home and noticed the dog was missing, after calling and calling outdoors, and no dog, they call x-boyfriend frantically to see if he came and got the dog, or at least wanted him to know the dog was now missing.
Definitely pre-meditated murder, and not spur of the moment.  Someone came to the house, when it was empty of all occupants except the dog, and removed the dog from the house……someone who knew a dog was there.
Jack’s alibi?  He was sleeping, and didn’t hear the phone ring or any of the text messages left for him.  Maybe he didn’t answer his phone, because he deliberately left it at his dorm room, knowing cell phones can leave traces of where you were with your phone…..and jealous jack was already inside the home, inside a closet?

OJoe • 16 days ago

One of Kaylee’s calls was something to the effect of “please call me, we share co-custody of the dog…” Was Kaylee looking for a missing dog? Did someone let the dog out of the house before the girls got home? The police said they “found” the dog the evening of the murders. Did Murphy come home later?
The Moscow Idaho Police Department has a whole page on their website dedicated to the investigation. It shows that Jack as NOT been cleared as a suspect, and that Murphy the dog was found unharmed in the house.

Derp • 11 days ago

I bet the shared the dog with her ex-boyfriend.was the reason why they kept calling the X boyfriend
I bet when they got home the dog wasn’t in the home because the killer or killers hiding in the home the dog probably ran out

Cleverosity • 16 days ago • edited

Keeps getting weirder. I am not an armchair detective but if seems more and more that the attacker was known by everyone in that house. Even the dog. Hi….Jack.

 

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Ⓒⓡⓐⓨⓞⓝ 🤠 Colt .45 Peacemaker Cleverosity • 16 days ago

Indeed. My dogs would savage someone if they attacked me in my sleep.



Largo Ranch Ⓒⓡⓐⓨⓞⓝ 🤠 Colt .45 Peacemaker • 16 days ago

If it’s the dog in the picture, that’s a labradoodle. Not known for their bravery…haha



PsychoKitty Largo Ranch • 16 days ago

But, they are known for their bark. They bark a LOT. So, why wasn’t it barking when all the murders were happening?

Arch Stanton • 16 days ago

What State Of Mind Was Jack In When He Didn’t Answer The Phone 📱❓


tengallonhat Arch Stanton • 16 days ago

His alibi is that he was sleeping.
I heard that the 2 unharmed girls were on the ground 1st floor and the others on the 2nd & 3rd. There were many parties at the house and I think the killer has been there before. When all 6 were out for the night, he probably snuck in to lie in wait. Before calling 911, the girl called some friends who came over then called in an unconscious person. Many have said the Crime Scene has been contaminated, so many cops and others trouncing everywhere to see the bodies.
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tengallonhat • 16 days ago

Either they were all drugged including the dog by a friend they let in before bedtime, or Murphy (the dog) knew the attacker.

 

Robert Beckman • 16 days ago

Lesson 1: Never live in a house with a keypad lock that a lot of people know the code for.

 

tengallonhat We2 • 16 days ago

Reddit’s been going nuts with local people giving input. Evidently Kaylee had an “amicable” breakup recently with her boyfriend Jack, who shared joint “custody” of the dog, Murphy. 2 girls made frantic calls to Jack in the last 10 minutes. Families are backing Jack 100% and cops say he’s not a suspect at this time.

tengallonhat We2 • 16 days ago

The “co-custody of the dog” was a terminology used in Kaylee’s text pleading with Jack to contact her
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tengallonhat Robert Beckman • 16 days ago

On reddit is a photo of the house at night, and Kaylee’s bed is fully visible through the window on the 3rd level, beneath appears to be the kitchen and sliding door that the cops were stickering with red tape. Cops say he was on campus, and slept through the texts/calls from both girls.
Kaylee owns the dog and has the ex-boyfriend. The last texts to Jack were also posted on reddit, and Kaylee pleads for him to contact her.

TheArmoredNight We2 • 16 days ago

Except they weren’t texts. They were attempted phone calls which Jack never answered.

Arch Stanton TheArmoredNight • 16 days ago

That Begs The Question 🙋‍♀️ WHERE Was Jack .
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tengallonhat Arch Stanton • 16 days ago

Jack’s alibi is that he was sleeping and slept through the phone calls.

 

    Vox Optimatium • 16 days ago • edited

    Do we know where dearly beloved ex-boyfriend, but sure someday to be husband and father, Jack lives?
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      tengallonhat Vox Optimatium • 16 days ago

      Jack lives on campus, according to local commenters, and he’s also a student. The girls lived about 2 blocks off campus, so it can’t be too far away. Supposedly, he slept through Kaylee and Maddie’s phone calls.

        Vox Optimatium tengallonhat • 15 days ago • edited

        Oh, is that right? Thanks. First on the to-do list for Moscow’s finest: collect DNA from Mr. Jack.
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          tengallonhat Vox Optimatium • 15 days ago

          My hunch is that Jack has lawyered up and is not offering any more information. Today the police avoided saying his name and he’s not on the “cleared” list of individuals. Cops must be waiting for someone to make an unforced error
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tengallonhat • 16 days ago

On reddit, the police said “we found the dog the evening of the incident.” Let that soak in…. Police were there sometime around lunchtime the morning after the murders, and they’re reporting “we found the dog the EVENING of the incident.” QUESTIONS: Where was Murphy? Did the killer let the dog outside to run loose, and Murphy found his way home the next day? Murphy probably wasn’t there – and maybe that’s the reason for frantic phone calls to Jack to find Murphy
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Lucy Chambers • 16 days ago

To me, the cops have botched this up big time, even I would know not to let the garbage truck collect the garbage. They should have brought the fbi in on day one. This whole thing is just bizarre.
 

Jana Fried • 16 days ago • edited

The murders were committed between 3 AM and 4 AM.
What a coincidence, that is the exact hour that Satanist commit their Satanic rituals.
Which also include human sacrifice.
No doubt that the roommates, left alive were recently inducted into freemasonry,
and great the freemasons of the FBI were called in to make sure, the truth will never be discovered, or some “patsy” set up before hand is accused and takes the blame.
Is one of those roommates from a wealthy and powerful family?
Or does he have some great talents/abilities/genius and no conscience
which makes him perfect and obvious as a freemasonic recruit.
They all have to take part in a criminal act so that the freemasons will have total control over them for life,
Like all your supreme court Justices, Presidents who are all 33 degree, and everyone in congress who gets to stay in congress.
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